From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:58:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130729085840.GC3721@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130726084345.GE31438@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>
Am 26.07.2013 um 10:43 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:53:33PM +0100, Alex Bligh wrote:
> >
> >
> > --On 25 July 2013 14:32:59 +0200 Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>I would happily at a QEMUClock of each type to AioContext. They are after
> > >>all pretty lightweight.
> > >
> > >What's the point of adding tones of QEMUClock instances? Considering
> > >proper abstraction, how are they different for each AioContext? Will
> > >they run against different clock sources, start/stop at different times?
> > >If the answer is "they have different timer list", then fix this
> > >incorrect abstraction.
> >
> > Even if I fix the abstraction, there is a question of whether it is
> > necessary to have more than one timer list per AioContext, because
> > the timer list is fundamentally per clock-source. I am currently
> > just using QEMU_CLOCK_REALTIME as that's what the block drivers normally
> > want. Will block drivers ever want timers from a different clock source?
>
> block.c and block/qed.c use vm_clock because block drivers should not do
> guest I/O while the vm is stopped. This is especially true during live
> migration where it's important to hand off the image file from the
> source host to the destination host with good cache consistency. The
> source host is not allowed to modify the image file anymore once the
> destination host has resumed the guest.
>
> Block jobs use rt_clock because they aren't considered guest I/O.
But considering your first paragraph, why is it safe to let block jobs
running while we're migrating? Do we really do that? It sounds unsafe to
me.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-29 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-21 8:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/8] timer: associate alarm_timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/8] timer: pick out timer list info from QemuClock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/8] timer: make timers_state static Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-trivial] " Michael Tokarev
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/8] timer: protect timers_state with lock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/8] timer: associate timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/8] timer: run timers on aio_poll Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:55 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 2:56 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 14:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 7/8] block: associate BlockDriverState with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 8/8] block: enable throttle with aiocontext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 4:38 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-22 6:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-23 2:51 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-25 11:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 9:40 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 10:18 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 2:53 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 10:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 1:28 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 6:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 7:31 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 7:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:01 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 8:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:37 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 11:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:30 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:43 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:06 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2a] [RFC 8/7 (really)] Add prctl(PR_SET_TIMERSLACK, 1, ...) to reduce timer slack Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 11:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:21 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 12:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 12:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:48 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 13:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 14:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 18:53 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 9:08 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 9:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 8:58 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-07-29 10:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-29 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-31 9:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 10:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-26 19:29 ` Alex Bligh
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