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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 3/5] timer: make qemu_clock_enable sync between disable and timer's cb
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:28:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130801142844.GB5761@mail.corp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D188B444048DFE2521549B34@Ximines.local>

 On Aug 01 2013, Alex Bligh wrote:
> Paolo,
> 
> --On 1 August 2013 15:51:11 +0200 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> >>> So actually there is another problem with this patch (both the
> >>> condvar and the event approach are equally buggy).  If a timer
> >>> on clock X disables clock X, qemu_clock_enable will deadlock.
> >>
> >>Yes. I believe there will be a similar problem if a timer
> >>created or deleted an AioContext (clearly less likely!)
> >>
> >>> I suppose it's easier to ask each user of qemu_clock_enable to
> >>> provide its own synchronization, and drop this patch.  The simplest
> >>> kind of synchronization is to delay some work to a bottom half in
> >>> the clock's AioContext.  If you do that, you know that the timers
> >>> are not running.
> >>
> >>I'm not sure that's true. If two AioContexts run in different
> >>threads, would their BH's and timers not also run in those two
> >>different threads?
> >
> >Suppose a thread wants to do qemu_clock_enable(foo, false), and the
> >code after qemu_clock_enable assumes that no timers are running.
> >Then you should move that code to a bottom half in foo's AioContext.
> 
> foo is a QEMUClock here.
> 
> A QEMUClock may not have just one AioContext. It could have several
> each operated by a different thread.

Oops, you're right.

Checking the code for callers of qemu_clock_enable() it seems like there
shouldn't be any deadlocks.  So it should work if qemu_clock_enable
walks all of the timerlists and waits on each event.

But we should document the expectations since they are different from
the current code.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-01 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-29  3:16 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/5] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 1/5] timer: protect timers_state with lock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  6:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29  8:01     ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29  3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 2/5] timer: pick out timer list info from QemuClock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 3/5] timer: make qemu_clock_enable sync between disable and timer's cb Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  6:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29  8:10     ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29 11:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30  2:42         ` liu ping fan
2013-07-30  9:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30  9:51             ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-30 10:12               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-01  5:54             ` liu ping fan
2013-08-01  8:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-01  9:35                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-01 12:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-01 13:28                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-01 13:51                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-01 14:20                         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-01 14:28                           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-08-02  3:31                             ` liu ping fan
2013-08-02 10:01                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-02  3:33                       ` liu ping fan
2013-08-02 14:43                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-05  2:13                           ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29  3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 4/5] timer: associate three timerlists with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  6:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29  8:20     ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29 13:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30  2:35         ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29  3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 5/5] timer: run timers on aio_poll Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-29  9:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/5] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29 10:23   ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-29 13:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29 13:56       ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-30  3:35   ` liu ping fan
2013-07-29 10:18 ` Alex Bligh

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