From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>,
"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Hu Tao <hutao@cn.fujitsu.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:31:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130801163144.GA18241@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51FA8C4D.70308@redhat.com>
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:26:53AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 08/01/2013 08:18 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > On 08/01/13 15:08, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The problem with pvpanic being an internal device is that VMs running
> >> operating systems without a driver for this device will have problems
> >> when qemu will be upgraded (from qemu without this pvpanic).
> >>
> >> The outcome may be, for example: in Windows(let's say XP) the Device manager
> >> will open a "new device" wizard and the device will appear as an unrecognized device.
> >
> > Only happens when also changing the machine type on upgrade as it is
> > turned off on old machine types.
> >
> > But, yes, pvpanic will show up as "Unknown device" without driver and
> > with the funky yellow exclamation mark in device manager in windows
> > guests. Newer windows versions don't kick the "new device" wizard. But
> > still I have my doubts that it is a good idea to add it unconditionally ...
>
> Automatic devices with no command line argument have proven to be a
> nightmare for libvirt as well. Although the just-released libvirt 1.1.1
> now supports the <on_crash> element for controlling the command line
> parameters of qemu related to how qemu will behave when the pvpanic
> device is triggered, I would also welcome having the ability to control
> whether the guest even has a pvpanic device exposed, just as we can
> control whether a guest has a memballoon device exposed.
A natural way to do this would be with -device pvpanic.
I'm not sure why it wasn't done like this from the beginning,
but it shouldn't be hard to redo, hopefully we can fix this
bug in time for 1.6.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-01 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-01 13:08 [Qemu-devel] pvpanic device should not be automatically included as an internal device Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-01 13:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-01 16:39 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-01 14:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-08-01 16:26 ` Eric Blake
2013-08-01 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-08-01 16:41 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-01 22:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-01 22:42 ` Eric Blake
2013-08-02 8:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-02 9:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-02 7:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 1/2] don't create pvpanic device by default Hu Tao
2013-08-02 8:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-11 10:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-11 14:45 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-11 15:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-11 15:16 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-08-02 7:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-1.6 2/2] pvpanic: make pvpanic known to user Hu Tao
2013-08-02 12:20 ` Andreas Färber
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