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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
Cc: "Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.a@redhat.com>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 11:05:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130806080527.GD8218@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394462966.9192671.1375776197295.JavaMail.root@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 04:03:17AM -0400, Vadim Rozenfeld wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>
> To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, "Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.a@redhat.com>, seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>, "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:34:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI
> 
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 09:32:18PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > As you see we do let people change many parameters
> > > > that do affect activation.
> > > By editing XML user can shoot himself in the foot, we should not prevent
> > > that.
> > 
> > So that's what I'm saying basically.
> > At the moment there's no way to remove this device from XML.
> > That's just wrong.
> Can say the same about PV acpi hotpulg device.
> 
> > In QEMU, we have a standard way to specify devices with -device.
> > That should be the interface for anything new really
> > unless there's a very compelling reason for something else.
> We are disagree on compelling reason in this case obviously.
> 
> > *Not* building it into the PC machine type.
> > 
> > > It should not be required though.
> > 
> > libvirt can pass -device pvpanic by default if nothing
> > is specified in XML. That discussion really has to happen
> > on libvirt list.
> > 
> As Paolo said you are just pushing the "problem" up the stack
> where it is harder to "solve". I put "problem" and "solve" in
> quotes because I disagree that the problem that need to be solved
> is identified correctly. The correct problem to be solved IMO is
> writing Windows driver for the device.
> 
> [VR]
> This one shouldn't be too complicated. Can be done on weekend.
Gal says he did it already.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-06  8:33 UTC|newest]

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2013-08-05 18:32             ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  7:34               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  8:03                 ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-08-06  8:05                   ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-08-06  8:14                     ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2013-08-06  8:38                       ` Gleb Natapov
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2013-08-06  8:33                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  8:36                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  8:45                         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06  9:15                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:20                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:04                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 17:53                             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06  9:56                           ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-06 10:11                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:21                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06  9:32                           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:19                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:44                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:03                                 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 11:16                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:48                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-06 12:03                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 12:09                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:45                                     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-07  8:17                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-06 11:54                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-08-06 12:08                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:35                             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 11:00                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 11:23                                 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 12:00                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 12:02                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-08-06 12:05                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:17                                       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 17:22                                     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-06 12:08                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 12:19                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06  9:26                       ` Hu Tao
2013-08-06  9:29                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:13                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:14                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-08-06 10:23                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-06 10:28                                 ` Gleb Natapov

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