From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Ping Fan Liu <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Convert AioContext to Gsource sub classes
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:23:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130815152320.16563.51609@loki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5209F1F7.6040202@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Quoting Wenchao Xia (2013-08-13 03:44:39)
> 于 2013-8-13 1:01, Michael Roth 写道:
> > Quoting Paolo Bonzini (2013-08-12 02:30:28)
> >>> 1) rename AioContext to AioSource.
> >>> This is my major purpose, which declare it is not a "context" concept,
> >>> and GMainContext is the entity represent the thread's activity.
> >>
> >> Note that the nested event loops in QEMU are _very_ different from
> >> glib nested event loops. In QEMU, nested event loops only run block
> >> layer events. In glib, they run all events. That's why you need
> >> AioContext.
> >
> > Would it be possible to use glib for our nested loops as well by just
> > setting a higher priority for the AioContext GSource?
> >
> > Stefan and I were considering how we could make use of his "drop
> > ioflush" patches to use a common mechanism to register fd events, but
> > still allow us to distinguish between AioContext and non-AioContext
> > for nested loops. I was originally thinking of using prepare() functions
> > to filter out non-AioContext events, but that requires we implement
> > on GSource's with that in mind, and non make use of pre-baked ones
> > like GIOChannel's, and bakes block stuff into every event source
> > implementation.
> >
> Besides priority, also g_source_set_can_recurse() can help.
> With a deeper think, I found a harder problem:
> g_main_context_acquire() and g_main_context_release(). In release,
> pending BH/IO call back need to be cleared, but this action can't
> be triggered automatically when user call g_main_context_release().
I don't understand why this is a requirement, gmctx_acquire/release ensure
that only one thread attempts to iterate the main loop at a time. this
isn't currently an issue in qemu, and if we re-implemented qemu_aio_wait()
to use the same glib interfaces, the tracking of in-flight requests would
be moved to the block layer via Stefan's 'drop io_flush' patches, which
moves that block-specific logic out of the main loop/AioContext GSource
by design. Are there other areas where you see this as a problem?
> For the above reason, I tend to think, maybe we should t wrap all of
> Glib's mainloop into custom encapsulation, such as QContext, Add the
> aio poll logic in q_context_release(). Use QContext * in every caller
> to hide GMainContext *, so QContext layer play the role of clear
> event loop API.
>
> > Priorities didn't cross my mind though, but it seems pretty
> > straightfoward...
> >
> > AioContext could then just be a container of sorts for managing
> > bottom-halves and AioContext FDs and binding them to the proper
> > GMainContext/MainLoop, but the underlying GSources could
> > still be driven by a normal glib-based mainloop, just with a specific
> > priority in the nested case.
> >
> >>
> >>> 2) Break AioSource into FdSource and BhSource.
> >>> This make custom code less and simpler, one Gsource for one kind of
> >>> job. It is not necessary but IMHO it will make things clear when add
> >>> more things into main loop: add a new Gsource sub class, avoid to
> >>> always have relationship with AioContext.
> >>
> >> But this is only complicating things work since users rely on both file-
> >> descriptor APIs and bottom half APIs.
> >
> > Taking things a step further, maybe AioContext can stop being a
> > block-specific construct, but actually be the "QContext" we've
> > discussed in the past for managing multiple event loops. All
> > the block stuff would be hidden away in the GSource priority.
> >
> > For instance,
> >
> > #ifndef _WIN32
> >
> > qemu_aio_set_fd_handler(fd, ...):
> > aio_set_fd_handler(qemu_aio_context, fd, ..., QEMU_PRIORITY_BLOCK)
> >
> > qemu_set_fd_handler(fd, ...):
> > aio_set_fd_handler(qemu_aio_context, fd, ..., G_PRIORITY_DEFAULT)
> >
> > #else
> >
> > qemu_add_wait_object(fd, ...):
> > add_wait_object(qemu_aio_context, fd, ...)
> >
> > qemu_set_fd_handler(fd, ...):
> > set_socket_handler(qemu_aio_context, fd, ..., G_PRIORITY_DEFAULT)
> >
> > #endif
> >
> > qemu_bh_schedule:
> > bh_schedule(qemu_aio_context, ...)
> >
> > etc...
> >
> > I'll be sending patches this week for moving
> > add_wait_object/qemu_set_fd_handler to GSources, the non-global ones use
> > GMainContext * to specify a non-default thread/context, but can be easily
> > changed, or we can just do aioctx->g_main_context at the call sites.
> > There's some nice possibilities in using the former though: avoiding
> > O(n) lookups for stuff like finding the GSource for a particular
> > event/event type, for instance, by storing pointers to the GSource or
> > some kind of hashmap lookup. But probably better to discuss that aspect
> > with some context so I'll try to get those patches out soon.
> >
> >>
> >>>>> More reasons:
> >>>>> When I thinking how to bind library code to a thread context, it may
> >>>>> need to add Context's concept into API of block.c. If I use AioContext,
> >>>>> there will need a wrapper API to run the event loop. But If I got
> >>>>> glib's GmainContext, things become simple.
> >>
> >> You already have it because AioContext is a GSource. You do not need
> >> to expose the AioContext, except as a GSource.
> >>
> I think expose GmainContext * or QContext *, is better than
> GSource *.
>
> int bdrv_read(GMainContext *ctx,
> BlockDriverState *bs,
> int64_t sector_num,
> uint8_t *buf,
> int nb_sectors)
>
> >> Paolo
> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Wenchao Xia
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-15 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-10 3:24 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Convert AioContext to Gsource sub classes Wenchao Xia
2013-08-10 8:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-12 6:46 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-12 7:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-12 17:01 ` Michael Roth
2013-08-13 8:44 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-15 15:23 ` Michael Roth [this message]
2013-08-15 16:32 ` Michael Roth
2013-08-16 7:15 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-16 8:12 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-20 9:59 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-20 17:54 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-21 8:45 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-21 9:33 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-08-22 11:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-21 10:06 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-10 10:15 ` Alex Bligh
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