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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: reduce duplication, fix PIIX descriptions
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:13:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130827161349.GA29285@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130827160923.GY2631@otherpad.lan.raisama.net>

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 01:09:23PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:51:22AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> > 
> > > We have a lot of code duplication between machine types,
> > > this increases with each new machine type
> > > and each new field.
> > >
> > > This has already introduced a minor bug: description
> > > for pc-1.3 says "Standard PC" while description for
> > > pc-1.4 is "Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)"
> > > which makes you think 1.3 is somehow more standard,
> > > or newer, while in fact it's a revision of the same PC.
> > 
> > I wouldn't call it a bug.  We're in the habit of never changing old
> > machine types, so when we created pc-i440fx-1.4 and pc-q35-1.4 with a
> > .desc that clearly explains the difference, we didn't change the older
> > versions the PC machine types as well.
> > 
> > That may have been overly cautious.  As long as .desc is not exposed to
> > the guest, it's not ABI, thus can be changed.
> 
> I just confirmed that on qemu-system-x86_64 the only place where .desc
> is used is on the machine_parse() help/error code at vl.c. I don't know
> about other architectures.

Generally, one would hope we won't expose random
internal stuff to guests :).

> I suggest we explicitly document the field as a human-readable
> machine-type description that should be never exposed to the guest (just
> in case somebody decides to use .desc on some guest-visible table one
> day).

Where would you document this?

> -- 
> Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-27  7:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: reduce duplication, fix PIIX descriptions Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-27  7:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-27  8:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-27  7:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-27 16:09   ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-08-27 16:13     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-08-27 19:19       ` Eduardo Habkost
2013-08-27 21:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-27 16:42     ` Markus Armbruster

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