From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRHWb-0003rk-HH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 04:11:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRHWT-00059S-3b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 04:11:13 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:65123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRHWS-00059O-TL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 04:11:05 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hj3so6482435wib.2 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 01:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:11:02 +0200 From: Stefan Hajnoczi Message-ID: <20131002081101.GD1550@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> References: <8761th82jx.fsf@elfo.elfo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for 2013-10-01 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Peter Maydell Cc: qemu-devel qemu-devel , KVM devel mailing list , Juan Quintela On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:17:35AM +0900, Peter Maydell wrote: > On 1 October 2013 23:54, Juan Quintela wrote: > > - Multicore on Multicore: > > TCG has no locking, no people really working there (Alex Graf?) > > Apart from the TCG locking issues (which are conceptually > tractable if anybody cares to try to fix them), the real complication > of multicore-on-multicore is how you handle discrepancies between > the memory models of host and guest, and in particular what > you do if your guest has a stronger memory model than your host: > do you insert barrier insns after every guest load/store? fall back > to not doing mp-on-mp? something else? If you want applications to always work then you need to insert barriers. It's expensive. Stefan