Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Use qemu-project.org domain name

[Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 06:39:09PM +0200, Stefan Weil wrote:
> Am 11.10.2013 09:55, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Stefan Weil wrote:
> >> Am 10.10.2013 11:39, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> >>> qemu.org is held by a third-party and no core community contributor has
> >>> access to the DNS configuration.  This leaves the website exposed to
> >>> outages due to DNS issues or IP address changes.  For example, if the
> >>> web server IP address needs to change we cannot guarantee qemu.org will
> >>> point to it!
> >>>
> >>> The newer qemu-project.org domain name is owned by Anthony Liguori
> >>> <anthony@codemonkey.ws>.  You can confirm this by querying the whois
> >>> information.  Also note that the #qemu IRC channel topic already
> >>> references qemu-project.org.
> >>>
> >>> Short of having a dedicated legal entity to hold the domain name on
> >>> behalf of the community, qemu-project.org seems like the safest bet.
> >>>
> >>> Let's replace references to qemu.org with qemu-project.org.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> This sprang from another email thread where qemu.org URLs were posted.  I
> >>> realized that there are still many references in the source tree.
> >>>
> >> I don't like this change. We should strive to get a transfer of qemu.org
> >> from the current owner to some respected legal entity in the open source
> >> domain,
> >> for example FSFE or FSF.
> > I have no contact with the current owner of qemu.org and therefore don't
> > know if they are willing to transfer it.
> >
> > Anthony: Any idea?
> >
> > Stefan
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> I had contacted the owner in the past when there were IP changes or DNS
> problems and always had the impression that he was helpful. Therefore I
> have sent a mail to him now, too, and asked him whether he would be
> willing to transfer the ownership of qemu.org to an organisation. I have
> also written to the FSFE and are waiting for both answers now.
> 
> I currently see no urgent need for the patch and strongly suggest to
> delay it for the next 4 weeks or maybe until end of October. If we don't
> get a positive answer until some deadline, we still can apply the patch
> then.
> 
> A new domain which is again privately owned is a bad solution, even if
> the owner is a very active QEMU developer. If we have to look for a new
> domain name to replace qemu.org, I expect that the new name must be
> owned by an organisation like the FSF or FSFE.
> 
> Don't forget that there are lots of other places which refer to
> qemu.org, so choosing a new domain name would always be the second best
> solution, and we should first try hard to get the best solution!

I'm glad that you and Anthony are investigating avenues to put
trademark, domain name, etc into a safe place.

Keep in mind that qemu-project.org is already being used in places (e.g.
#qemu IRC channel topic).  It's not a brand new domain name.

The current situation with qemu.org is not a healthy position for an
open source project to be in.  I hope we can either make progress or
switch over to qemu-project.org soon.

Stefan