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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: "Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>,
	"Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
	Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:24:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131126162445.GB24806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131126161427.GB20352@redhat.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:14:27PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:05:37PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 02:56:10PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:47:03PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > > Il 26/11/2013 13:40, Zhanghaoyu (A) ha scritto:
> > > > > When guest set irq smp_affinity, VMEXIT occurs, then the vcpu thread will IOCTL return to QEMU from hypervisor, then vcpu thread ask the hypervisor to update the irq routing table,
> > > > > in kvm_set_irq_routing, synchronize_rcu is called, current vcpu thread is blocked for so much time to wait RCU grace period, and during this period, this vcpu cannot provide service to VM,
> > > > > so those interrupts delivered to this vcpu cannot be handled in time, and the apps running on this vcpu cannot be serviced too.
> > > > > It's unacceptable in some real-time scenario, e.g. telecom. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, I want to create a single workqueue for each VM, to asynchronously performing the RCU synchronization for irq routing table, 
> > > > > and let the vcpu thread return and VMENTRY to service VM immediately, no more need to blocked to wait RCU grace period.
> > > > > And, I have implemented a raw patch, took a test in our telecom environment, above problem disappeared.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think a workqueue is even needed.  You just need to use call_rcu
> > > > to free "old" after releasing kvm->irq_lock.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think?
> > > > 
> > > It should be rate limited somehow. Since it guest triggarable guest may cause
> > > host to allocate a lot of memory this way.
> > 
> > The checks in __call_rcu(), should handle this I think.  These keep a per-CPU
> > counter, which can be adjusted via rcutree.blimit, which defaults
> > to taking evasive action if more than 10K callbacks are waiting on a
> > given CPU.
> > 
> > 
> Documentation/RCU/checklist.txt has:
> 
>         An especially important property of the synchronize_rcu()
>         primitive is that it automatically self-limits: if grace periods
>         are delayed for whatever reason, then the synchronize_rcu()
>         primitive will correspondingly delay updates.  In contrast,
>         code using call_rcu() should explicitly limit update rate in
>         cases where grace periods are delayed, as failing to do so can
>         result in excessive realtime latencies or even OOM conditions.

I just asked Paul what this means.

> --
> 			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-26 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26 12:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:56   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 13:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  3:46       ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 16:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:14       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2013-11-30  2:46           ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 13:18   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:36       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:46         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:54           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:03             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:25                 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:58                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:06                         ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:11                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:21                             ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:42                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:08                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:27                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:38                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:29                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:37                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  6:27                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  8:55                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:19                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  9:29                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:43                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  9:49                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:16                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:40                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:09                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:10                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:23                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:31                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:33                                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:12                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:02                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:18                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:22                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:30                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:24               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:14                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  9:20                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50   ` Gleb Natapov

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