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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com>
Cc: "Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
	Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:38:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131126163857.GE20352@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5294CC03.7050801@cloudius-systems.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 06:27:47PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/26/2013 06:24 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 04:20:27PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>Il 26/11/2013 16:03, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>I understood the proposal was also to eliminate the synchronize_rcu(),
> >>>>>>>>>so while new interrupts would see the new routing table, interrupts
> >>>>>>>>>already in flight could pick up the old one.
> >>>>>>>Isn't that always the case with RCU?  (See my answer above: "the vcpus
> >>>>>>>already see the new routing table after the rcu_assign_pointer that is
> >>>>>>>in kvm_irq_routing_update").
> >>>>>With synchronize_rcu(), you have the additional guarantee that any
> >>>>>parallel accesses to the old routing table have completed.  Since we
> >>>>>also trigger the irq from rcu context, you know that after
> >>>>>synchronize_rcu() you won't get any interrupts to the old
> >>>>>destination (see kvm_set_irq_inatomic()).
> >>>We do not have this guaranty for other vcpus that do not call
> >>>synchronize_rcu(). They may still use outdated routing table while a vcpu
> >>>or iothread that performed table update sits in synchronize_rcu().
> >>Avi's point is that, after the VCPU resumes execution, you know that no
> >>interrupt will be sent to the old destination because
> >>kvm_set_msi_inatomic (and ultimately kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast) is
> >>also called within the RCU read-side critical section.
> >>
> >>Without synchronize_rcu you could have
> >>
> >>     VCPU writes to routing table
> >>                                        e = entry from IRQ routing table
> >>     kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
> >>     VCPU resumes execution
> >>                                        kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
> >>                                        kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
> >>
> >>where the entry is stale but the VCPU has already resumed execution.
> >>
> >So how is it different from what we have now:
> >
> >disable_irq()
> >VCPU writes to routing table
> >                                  e = entry from IRQ routing table
> >                                  kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
> >                                  kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
> >kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
> >synchronize_rcu()
> >VCPU resumes execution
> >enable_irq()
> >receive stale irq
> >
> >
> 
> Suppose the guest did not disable_irq() and enable_irq(), but
> instead had a pci read where you have the enable_irq().  After the
> read you cannot have a stale irq (assuming the read flushes the irq
> all the way to the APIC).
There still may be race between pci read and MSI registered in IRR. I do
not believe such read can undo IRR changes.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-26 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26 12:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:56   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 13:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  3:46       ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 16:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:14       ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-30  2:46           ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 13:18   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:36       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:46         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:54           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:03             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:25                 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:58                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:06                         ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:11                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:21                             ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:42                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:08                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:27                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:38                     ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2013-11-26 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:29                     ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:37                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  6:27                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  8:55                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:19                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  9:29                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28  9:43                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28  9:49                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:16                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:40                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:47                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:09                               ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:10                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:16                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:23                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:31                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:33                                       ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:12                           ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:02                             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:18                               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:22                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:30                                   ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:24               ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28  9:14                 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28  9:20                   ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50   ` Gleb Natapov

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