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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Antonios Motakis <a.motakis@virtualopensystems.com>
Cc: lukego@gmail.com, tech@virtualopensystems.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, n.nikolaev@virtualopensystems.com,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] Vhost and vhost-net support for userspace based backends
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:56:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131204135654.GC27381@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1385754746-21172-1-git-send-email-a.motakis@virtualopensystems.com>

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 08:52:21PM +0100, Antonios Motakis wrote:
> In this patch series we would like to introduce our approach for putting a
> virtio-net backend in an external userspace process. Our eventual target is to
> run the network backend in the Snabbswitch ethernet switch, while receiving
> traffic from a guest inside QEMU/KVM which runs an unmodified virtio-net
> implementation.
> 
> For this, we are working into extending vhost to allow equivalent functionality
> for userspace. Vhost already passes control of the data plane of virtio-net to
> the host kernel; we want to realize a similar model, but for userspace.
> 
> In this patch series the concept of a vhost-backend is introduced.
> 
> We define two vhost backend types - vhost-kernel and vhost-user. The former is
> the interface to the current kernel module implementation. Its control plane is
> ioctl based. The data plane is the kernel directly accessing the QEMU allocated,
> guest memory.
> 
> In the new vhost-user backend, the control plane is based on communication
> between QEMU and another userspace process using a unix domain socket. This
> allows to implement a virtio backend for a guest running in QEMU, inside the
> other userspace process.

One thing that came to mind when reading the patches is that you are
implementing the vhost interface pretty much exactly as-is.  Did you
look at FUSE's character devices in userspace (CUSE)?  IIRC even ioctl
is supported so you might be able to skip the userspace backend entirely
if you mimic vhost_net.ko's ioctl interface.

Then all that's needed is some configuration/startup code to use shared
memory and pass the eventfds.

Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-04 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29 19:52 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] Vhost and vhost-net support for userspace based backends Antonios Motakis
2013-11-29 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] Decouple vhost from kernel interface Antonios Motakis
2013-11-29 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] Add vhost-kernel and the vhost-user skeleton Antonios Motakis
2013-12-04 13:47   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-12-04 15:23     ` Antonios Motakis
2013-11-29 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] Add vhostsock option Antonios Motakis
2013-12-04 13:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-12-04 15:21     ` Antonios Motakis
2013-12-04 14:28   ` Eric Blake
2013-11-29 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] Add domain socket communication for vhost-user backend Antonios Motakis
2013-11-29 19:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] Add vhost-user calls implementation Antonios Motakis
2013-12-04 20:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-10 12:05     ` Antonios Motakis
2013-12-04 13:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2013-12-04 15:23   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/5] Vhost and vhost-net support for userspace based backends Antonios Motakis

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