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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Will Auld <will.auld@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-i386: clear guest TSC on reset
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:06:55 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205170655.GA20427@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131205164000.GA18678@amt.cnet>

On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 02:40:00PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 05:02:02PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 05/12/2013 16:42, Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao ha scritto:
> > > (2013/12/05 22:53), Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > >> Il 05/12/2013 14:15, Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao ha scritto:
> > >>>          /*
> > >>>           * KVM is yet unable to synchronize TSC values of multiple VCPUs on
> > >>>           * writeback. Until this is fixed, we only write the offset to SMP
> > >>>           * guests after migration, desynchronizing the VCPUs, but avoiding
> > >>>           * huge jump-backs that would occur without any writeback at all.
> > >>>           */
> > >>> -        if (smp_cpus == 1 || env->tsc != 0) {
> > >>> +        if (smp_cpus == 1 || env->tsc != 0 || level == KVM_PUT_RESET_STATE) {
> > >>>              kvm_msr_entry_set(&msrs[n++], MSR_IA32_TSC, env->tsc);
> > >>>          }
> > >> This is still a bit ugly, and desynchronizes the VCPUs on reset.
> > > 
> > > I agree it is a bit ugly, but in my testing QEMU seemed to loop over all
> > > the VCPUS fast enough for the kernel side kvm_write_tsc() to do a
> > > reasonable job of matching the offsets (the Linux guest did not mark
> > > the TSC unstable due to the TSCs being unsynchronized). Am I missing
> > > something?
> > 
> > No, probably not.
> > 
> > > I understand the benefits of what you are proposing but, since it is
> > > wider is scope and it would be more difficult to backport, I would
> > > prefer to implement it as a follow-up patch, unless you think that
> > > the current patch as a standalone fix does more harm than good.
> > 
> > It does some harm in that it introduces a case where KVM_PUT_RESET_STATE
> > restores something, but KVM_PUT_FULL_STATE doesn't.
> > 
> > If it really usually works, there shouldn't be a need for this "if"
> > statement at all.
> > 
> > Marcelo, what do you think?
> > 
> > Paolo
> 
> Its OK to drop it, provided the following is tested on SMP guests:
> 
> 1. initialization.
> 2. reboot.
> 3. migration.
> 
> With both stable and unstable TSC hosts (use wrmsr tool to write TSC on
> a given host CPU, to make it an unstable TSC host). (A=rdmsr ; sleep 1s;
> wrmsr A).
> 
> To make sure the code is not securing against a kvm_write_tsc
> cornercase.

The TSCs should start synchronized, and remain synchronized across
reboot and migration for stable TSC host case.

It is not necessary to test the unstable TSC host case.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1386054500.25757.10.camel@nexus>
     [not found] ` <529D90A6.2080801@lab.ntt.co.jp>
2013-12-05  6:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] kvm: clear guest TSC on reset Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-05  6:15     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-i386: " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-05  9:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-05 13:15         ` Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao
2013-12-05 13:53           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-05 15:42             ` Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao
2013-12-05 16:02               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-05 16:40                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-05 17:06                   ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2013-12-05 16:17               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-05 16:38                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-06  8:24                   ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-06  8:33                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1//2 v3] " Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-06  8:38                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: do not special case TSC writeback Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-06  8:36                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-i386: clear guest TSC on reset Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-06  8:56                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-06  9:08                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-06  9:20                           ` Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao
2013-12-06 14:22                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-09  8:50                       ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-12  2:52                         ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2013-12-12 12:18                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-05 16:12         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2013-12-05 16:32           ` Paolo Bonzini

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