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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Vincenzo Maffione" <v.maffione@gmail.com>,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com,
	owasserm@redhat.com, "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Yan Vugenfirer" <yan@daynix.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	akong@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	aliguori@amazon.com, marcel.a@redhat.com, sw@weilnetz.de,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Giuseppe Lettieri" <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Luigi Rizzo" <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Dmitry Fleytman" <dmitry@daynix.com>,
	mark.langsdorf@calxeda.com, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] net: QEMU_NET_PACKET_FLAG_MORE introduced
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:42:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131209124230.GC9611@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131209111431.GG15055@redhat.com>

On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 01:14:31PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 11:55:57AM +0100, Vincenzo Maffione wrote:
> > If you don't think adding the new flag support for virtio-net is a good idea
> > (though TAP performance is not affected in every case) we could also make it
> > optional.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> >   Vincenzo
> > 
> 
> I think it's too early to say whether this patch is benefitial for
> netmap, too.  It looks like something that trades off latency
> for throughput, and this is a decision the endpoint (VM) should
> make, not the network (host).
> So you should measure with offloads on before you make conclusions about it.

Just to check my understanding, we're talking about the following kind
of batching:

  int num_packets = peek_available_packets(device);
  while (num_packets-- > 0) {
      int flags = MORE;
      if (num_packets == 0) {
          flags = NONE;
      }
      qemu_net_send_packet(..., flags);
  }

In other words, this only batches up a single burst of packets.  It
doesn't introduce timers or blocking calls.

So the effect of batching should be relatively small on latency.  In
fact, it's almost like sendmmsg(2)/recvmmsg(2) but using a
one-packet-at-a-time interface.

Does this sound right?

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-09 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-06 14:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] net: QEMU_NET_PACKET_FLAG_MORE introduced Vincenzo Maffione
2013-12-06 16:39 ` Stefan Weil
2013-12-08 12:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-09 10:20   ` Vincenzo Maffione
2013-12-09 10:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-09 10:55       ` Vincenzo Maffione
2013-12-09 11:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-09 12:42           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2013-12-09 13:25             ` Vincenzo Maffione
2013-12-09 14:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-09 16:04                 ` Vincenzo Maffione
2013-12-09 13:55             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-10  9:16               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-12-09 12:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-12-09 14:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-09 14:10     ` Luigi Rizzo
2013-12-10  8:53     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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