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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Thomas Falcon <tlfalcon@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM and variable-endianness guest CPUs
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:24:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140118042401.GB4021@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-v5NcC_dJv+wF0k-H4BMxwh7TZvkiCw+YoXCiSPDCDfA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 06:52:57PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 17 January 2014 17:53, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Specifically, the KVM API says "here's a uint8_t[] byte
> > array and a length", and the current QEMU code treats that
> > as "this is a byte array written as if the guest CPU
> > (a) were in TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN order and (b) wrote its
> > I/O access to this buffer rather than to the device".
> >
> > The KVM API docs don't actually specify the endianness
> > semantics of the byte array, but I think that that really
> > needs to be nailed down. I can think of a couple of options:
> >  * always LE
> >  * always BE
> >    [these first two are non-starters because they would
> >    break either x86 or PPC existing code]
> >  * always the endianness the guest is at the time
> >  * always some arbitrary endianness based purely on the
> >    endianness the KVM implementation used historically
> >  * always the endianness of the host QEMU binary
> >  * something else?
> >
> > Any preferences? Current QEMU code basically assumes
> > "always the endianness of TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN",
> > which is pretty random.
> 
> Having thought a little more about this, my opinion is:
> 
>  * we should specify that the byte order of the mmio.data
>    array is host kernel endianness (ie same endianness
>    as the QEMU process itself) [this is what it actually
>    is, I think, for all the cases that work today]

I completely agree, given that it's too late to be set on always LE/BE,
I think the natural choice is something that allows a user to cast the
byte array to an appropriate pointer type and dereference it.

And I think we need to amend the KVM API docs to specify this.

-- 
Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-18  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-17 17:53 [Qemu-devel] KVM and variable-endianness guest CPUs Peter Maydell
2014-01-17 18:52 ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-18  4:24   ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2014-01-18  7:32     ` Alexander Graf
2014-01-18 10:15       ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-20 14:20         ` Alexander Graf
2014-01-20 14:31           ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-20 14:22   ` Alexander Graf
2014-01-20 19:19     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-22  5:39       ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-22  6:31         ` Anup Patel
2014-01-22  6:41           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-01-22  7:26             ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-22 10:52               ` Alexander Graf
2014-01-23  4:25                 ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-23 10:32                   ` Alexander Graf
2014-01-23 10:56                   ` Greg Kurz
2014-01-22  8:57             ` Anup Patel
2014-01-23 23:28               ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-22 10:22         ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2014-01-22 17:19           ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-22 17:29             ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-22 19:29               ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-22 20:02                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-22 22:47                   ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-22 23:18                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-23  0:22                       ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-23 10:23                         ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-23 15:06                           ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-23 15:33                             ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-23 16:25                               ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-23 20:45                                 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-24  0:50                                   ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-24  2:14                                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-24  4:11                                       ` Victor Kamensky
2014-01-28  0:32                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  0:40                                           ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-28  0:15                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-24  0:09                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Victor Kamensky
2014-01-28  0:07                               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  0:07                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-27 23:34                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-27 23:49                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-01-28  0:36                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  0:44                         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-28  4:47                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28 16:31                             ` Christoffer Dall
2014-01-27 23:31                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-27 23:27               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-01-28  9:16                 ` Avi Kivity
2014-01-28  9:04           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity

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