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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Hrdina <phrdina@redhat.com>,
	Zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Huangpeng (Peter)" <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC]VM live snapshot proposal
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:55:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140303125520.GF4850@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140303123234.GC21055@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

Am 03.03.2014 um 13:32 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 01:13:41AM +0000, Huangpeng (Peter) wrote:
> 
> Just to summarize the idea of live savevm for people joining the
> discussion:
> 
> It should be possible to save a snapshot of the guest (including memory,
> devices, and disk) without noticable downtime.
> 
> The 'savevm' command pauses the guest until the snapshot has been
> completed and therefore doesn't meet the requirements.
> 
> > Here I have another proposal, based on the live-migration scheme, add consistent 
> > memory state tracking and saving.
> > The idea is simple:
> > 1.First round use live-migration to save all memory to a snapshot file.
> > 2.intercept the action of memory-modify, save old pages to a temporary file and mark dirty-bits,
> > 3.Merge temporary file to the original snapshot file

Why do you need a temporary file for this? Couldn't you directly store
the memory to its final destination in the snapshot file?

> > Detailed process:
> > (1)Pause VM
> > (2) Save the device status to a temporary file (live-migration already supported )
> > (3) Make disk snapshot
> > (4) Enable page dirty log and old dirty pages save function(which we need to add)
> > (5) Resume VM
> > (6) Begin the first round of iteration, we save the entire contents of the VM memory pages
> > to the snapshot file
> > (7) In the second round of iteration , we save the old page to the snapshot file
> > (8) Merge data of device status which is pre-saved in temporary files to the snapshot file
> > (8) End ram snapshot and some cleanup work
> > 
> > Due to memory-modifications may happen in kvm, qemu, or vhost, the key-part is how we
> > can provide common page-modify-tracking-and-saving api, we completed a prototype by 
> > simply add modified-page tracking/saving function in qemu, and it seems worked fine.
> 
> Yes, this is the tricky part.  To be honest, I think this is the reason
> no one has submitted patches - it's a hard task and the win isn't that
> great (you can already migrate to file).

So why don't we simply reuse the existing migration code?

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-03 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-03  1:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFC]VM live snapshot proposal Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-03 12:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-03 12:55   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2014-03-03 13:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 13:30       ` Kevin Wolf
2014-03-03 13:47         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 14:04           ` Kevin Wolf
2014-03-03 14:55           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-03-03 19:52           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-03-04  1:35             ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-05 14:46               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-03-05  1:52             ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-05 14:55               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-03-04  1:28         ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-04  9:40           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-03-05  1:00             ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-05  9:09               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06  1:42             ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-06  9:14               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-03-04  1:06     ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-03 13:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04  1:02   ` Huangpeng (Peter)
2014-03-04  8:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-04  9:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 11:28         ` Wenchao Xia
2014-03-05  0:46       ` Huangpeng (Peter)

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