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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Anton Ivanov (antivano)" <antivano@cisco.com>
Cc: "Qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <Qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Contribution - L2TPv3 transport
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:27:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140303132746.GE21055@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5310489A.4060501@cisco.com>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 08:28:11AM +0000, Anton Ivanov (antivano) wrote:
> 3. Qemu to communicate with the local host, remote vms, network devices,
> etc at speeds which for a number of use cases exceed the speed of the
> legacy tap driver.

This surprises me.  It's odd that tap performs significantly worse.

I guess you have two options for using kernel L2TPv3 support:

1. Use a bridge and tap to forward between the L2TPv3 interface and the
   QEMU.

2. Use macvtap on top of the L2TPv3 interface (if possible).

Option #2 should be faster.

Now about the tap userspace ABI, is the performance bottleneck that the
read(2) system call only receives one packet at a time?  The tap file
descriptor is not a socket so recvmmsg(2) cannot be used on it directly.

I have wondered in the past whether something like packet mmap would be
possible on a tap device.  At that point userspace just waits for
notifications and the actual packets don't require any syscalls.

> Our suggestion would be that this over time obsoletes the UDP variety of
> the "socket" driver.

Yes, thank you!  L2TPv3 looks like a good replacement for the "socket"
driver.

Will review and respond to your patch in detail.

Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-03 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-28  8:28 [Qemu-devel] Contribution - L2TPv3 transport Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-02-28 10:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-28 11:17   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-02-28 11:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-28 12:59       ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-02-28 13:55   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 15:19   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 15:22     ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 15:53       ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 16:05         ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-05  8:49         ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-05 11:38           ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-04 15:41     ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 15:58       ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 16:04         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 16:33     ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 16:48       ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 16:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 17:28           ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04 17:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-28 13:40 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-28 13:52   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-02-28 13:57     ` Eric Blake
2014-02-28 14:03       ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-02-28 14:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-28 15:06     ` Eric Blake
2014-02-28 15:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 13:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-03-03 14:01   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-04  9:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-04  9:47       ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-05  8:59         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-05  9:13           ` Vincenzo Maffione
2014-03-03 14:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-04 11:32   ` Anton Ivanov (antivano)
2014-03-05  9:07     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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