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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio device error reporting best practice?
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:49:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140326124913.GA22508@stefanha-thinkpad.muc.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53270678.8090901@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 03:28:08PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 03/17/14 07:02, Dave Airlie wrote:
> > So I'm looking at how best to do virtio gpu device error reporting,
> > and how to deal with illegal stuff,
> > 
> > I've two levels of errors I want to support,
> > 
> > a) unrecoverable or bad guest kernel programming errors,
> > 
> > b) per 3D context errors from the renderer backend,
> > 
> > (b) I can easily report in an event queue and the guest kernel can in
> > theory blow away the offenders, this is how GL works with some
> > extensions,
> > 
> > For (a) I can expect a response from every command I put into the main
> > GPU control queue, the response should always be no error, but in some
> > cases it will be because the guest hit some host resource error, or
> > asked for something insane, (guest kernel drivers would be broken in
> > most of these cases).
> > 
> > Alternately I can use the separate event queue to send async errors
> > when the guest does something bad,
> > 
> > I'm also considering adding some sort of flag in config space saying
> > the device needs a reset before it will continue doing anything,
> > 
> > The main reason I'm considering this stuff is for security reasons if
> > the guest asks for something really illegal or crazy what should the
> > expected behaviour of the host be? (at least secure I know that).
> 
> exit(1).
> 
> If you grep qemu for it, you'll find such examples. Notably,
> "hw/virtio/virtio.c" is chock full of them; if the guest doesn't speak
> the basic protocol, there's nothing for the host to do. See also
> virtio-blk.c (missing or incorrect headers), virtio-net.c (similar
> protocol violations), virtio-scsi.c (wrong header size, bad config etc).
> 
> For later, we have a use case on the horizon where all such exits -- not
> just virtio, but exit(1) or abort() on invalid guest behavior in general
> -- should be optionally coupled (dependent on the qemu command line)
> with an automatic dump-guest-memory, in order to help debugging the guest.

Please don't use exit(1).  Instead you can put the device into a
"broken" state and wait for the guest to reset it.

exit(1) is nasty because a failure in one driver shouldn't bring down
the entire VM if we can prevent it.

Also, it's a denial-of-service if we ever allow virtio passthrough to
nested guests - a nested guest could kill its parent and hence all other
nested guests.

Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-26 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-17  6:02 [Qemu-devel] virtio device error reporting best practice? Dave Airlie
2014-03-17 14:28 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-17 14:40   ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-17 14:49     ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-17 14:54       ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-17 14:57       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-17 19:05       ` Andreas Färber
2014-03-18 12:45       ` Kevin Wolf
2014-03-17 14:57     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-03-17 14:59       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-03-26 12:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-03-17 14:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-19  0:34 ` Rusty Russell
2014-03-19  8:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-20  3:40     ` Rusty Russell
2014-03-20  6:39       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-20 12:53         ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-26 14:34           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-27  0:54             ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2014-03-20  6:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-21  9:44     ` Yan Vugenfirer

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