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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, shadowsor@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 RESEND] block: introduce BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:12:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140604151228.GL11073@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401486037-25609-1-git-send-email-pl@kamp.de>

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:40:37PM +0200, Peter Lieven wrote:
> this patch introduces a new flag to indicate that we are going to sequentially
> read from a file and do not plan to reread/reuse the data after it has been read.
> 
> The current use of this flag is to open the source(s) of a qemu-img convert
> process. If a protocol from block/raw-posix.c is used posix_fadvise is utilized
> to advise to the kernel that we are going to read sequentially from the
> file and a POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED advise is issued after each write to indicate
> that there is no advantage keeping the blocks in the buffers.
> 
> Consider the following test case that was created to confirm the behaviour of
> the new flag:
> 
> A 10G logical volume was created and filled with random data.
> Then the logical volume was exported via qemu-img convert to an iscsi target.
> Before the export was started all caches of the linux kernel where dropped.
> 
> Old behavior:
>  - The convert process took 3m45s and the buffer cache grew up to 9.67 GB close
>    to the end of the conversion. After qemu-img terminated all the buffers were
>    freed by the kernel.
> 
> New behavior with the -N switch:
>  - The convert process took 3m43s and the buffer cache grew up to 15.48 MB close
>    to the end with some small peaks up to 30 MB during the conversion.

FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL can be good since it doubles read-ahead on Linux.

I'm skeptical of the effort to avoid buffer cache usage using
FADVISE_DONTNEED.  The performance results tell me that less buffer
cache was used but that number doesn't have a direct effect on
application performance.

Let's check GNU coreutils:

  $ cd coreutils
  $ git grep FADVISE_DONTNEED
  gl/lib/fadvise.h:  FADVISE_DONTNEED =   POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED,
  gl/lib/fadvise.h:  FADVISE_DONTNEED,
  $

GNU cp(1) does not care about minimizing impact on buffer cache using
FADVISE_DONTNEED.  It just sets FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL on the source file
and calls read() (plus uses FIEMAP to check extents for sparseness).

I want to avoid adding code just for the heck of it.  We need a deeper
understanding:

Please drop FADVISE_DONTNEED and compare again to see if it changes the
benchmark.

By the way, did you perform several runs to check the variance of the
running time?  I don't know if the 2 seconds difference were noise or
because FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL or because FADVISE_DONTNEED or because both.

> diff --git a/block/raw-posix.c b/block/raw-posix.c
> index 6586a0c..9768cc4 100644
> --- a/block/raw-posix.c
> +++ b/block/raw-posix.c
> @@ -447,6 +447,13 @@ static int raw_open_common(BlockDriverState *bs, QDict *options,
>      }
>  #endif
>  
> +#ifdef POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL
> +    if (bs->open_flags & BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL &&
> +        !(bs->open_flags & BDRV_O_NOCACHE)) {
> +        posix_fadvise(s->fd, 0, 0, POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL);
> +    }
> +#endif

This is only true if the image format is raw.  If the image format on
top of this raw-posix BDS is non-raw then the read pattern may not be
sequential.

Perhaps the extra I/O in that case doesn't matter but conceptually it's
wrong to think that a raw-posix file will have a sequential access
pattern just because bdrv_read() is called sequentially.

       reply	other threads:[~2014-06-04 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1401486037-25609-1-git-send-email-pl@kamp.de>
2014-06-04 15:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-06-04 15:31   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 RESEND] block: introduce BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL Peter Lieven
2014-06-05  7:53     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-05  8:09       ` Peter Lieven
2014-06-05  8:13         ` Kevin Wolf
2014-06-05 13:54           ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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