From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
stefanha@redhat.com, shadowsor@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 RESEND] block: introduce BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:12:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140604151228.GL11073@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401486037-25609-1-git-send-email-pl@kamp.de>
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:40:37PM +0200, Peter Lieven wrote:
> this patch introduces a new flag to indicate that we are going to sequentially
> read from a file and do not plan to reread/reuse the data after it has been read.
>
> The current use of this flag is to open the source(s) of a qemu-img convert
> process. If a protocol from block/raw-posix.c is used posix_fadvise is utilized
> to advise to the kernel that we are going to read sequentially from the
> file and a POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED advise is issued after each write to indicate
> that there is no advantage keeping the blocks in the buffers.
>
> Consider the following test case that was created to confirm the behaviour of
> the new flag:
>
> A 10G logical volume was created and filled with random data.
> Then the logical volume was exported via qemu-img convert to an iscsi target.
> Before the export was started all caches of the linux kernel where dropped.
>
> Old behavior:
> - The convert process took 3m45s and the buffer cache grew up to 9.67 GB close
> to the end of the conversion. After qemu-img terminated all the buffers were
> freed by the kernel.
>
> New behavior with the -N switch:
> - The convert process took 3m43s and the buffer cache grew up to 15.48 MB close
> to the end with some small peaks up to 30 MB during the conversion.
FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL can be good since it doubles read-ahead on Linux.
I'm skeptical of the effort to avoid buffer cache usage using
FADVISE_DONTNEED. The performance results tell me that less buffer
cache was used but that number doesn't have a direct effect on
application performance.
Let's check GNU coreutils:
$ cd coreutils
$ git grep FADVISE_DONTNEED
gl/lib/fadvise.h: FADVISE_DONTNEED = POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED,
gl/lib/fadvise.h: FADVISE_DONTNEED,
$
GNU cp(1) does not care about minimizing impact on buffer cache using
FADVISE_DONTNEED. It just sets FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL on the source file
and calls read() (plus uses FIEMAP to check extents for sparseness).
I want to avoid adding code just for the heck of it. We need a deeper
understanding:
Please drop FADVISE_DONTNEED and compare again to see if it changes the
benchmark.
By the way, did you perform several runs to check the variance of the
running time? I don't know if the 2 seconds difference were noise or
because FADVISE_SEQUENTIAL or because FADVISE_DONTNEED or because both.
> diff --git a/block/raw-posix.c b/block/raw-posix.c
> index 6586a0c..9768cc4 100644
> --- a/block/raw-posix.c
> +++ b/block/raw-posix.c
> @@ -447,6 +447,13 @@ static int raw_open_common(BlockDriverState *bs, QDict *options,
> }
> #endif
>
> +#ifdef POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL
> + if (bs->open_flags & BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL &&
> + !(bs->open_flags & BDRV_O_NOCACHE)) {
> + posix_fadvise(s->fd, 0, 0, POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL);
> + }
> +#endif
This is only true if the image format is raw. If the image format on
top of this raw-posix BDS is non-raw then the read pattern may not be
sequential.
Perhaps the extra I/O in that case doesn't matter but conceptually it's
wrong to think that a raw-posix file will have a sequential access
pattern just because bdrv_read() is called sequentially.
next parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-04 15:12 UTC|newest]
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2014-06-04 15:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-06-04 15:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 RESEND] block: introduce BDRV_O_SEQUENTIAL Peter Lieven
2014-06-05 7:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-05 8:09 ` Peter Lieven
2014-06-05 8:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-06-05 13:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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