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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Fam Zheng" <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@amazon.com>,
	"Amit Shah" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Greg Kurz" <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 8/8] virtio: add endian-ambivalent support to VirtIODevice
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:07:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140612090718.GC22230@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53996B0C.9090409@suse.de>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:55:40AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 12.06.14 09:54, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 09:43:51AM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> >>On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:16:26 +0200
> >>Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>Il 29/05/2014 11:12, Greg Kurz ha scritto:
> >>>>int virtio_load(VirtIODevice *vdev, QEMUFile *f)
> >>>>{
> >>>>[...]
> >>>>             nheads = vring_avail_idx(&vdev->vq[i]) - vdev->vq[i].last_avail_idx;
> >>>>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>>>             /* Check it isn't doing very strange things with descriptor numbers. */
> >>>>             if (nheads > vdev->vq[i].vring.num) {
> >>>>[...]
> >>>>}
> >>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>static int virtio_serial_load(QEMUFile *f, void *opaque, int version_id)
> >>>>{
> >>>>[...]
> >>>>     /* The config space */
> >>>>     qemu_get_be16s(f, &s->config.cols);
> >>>>     qemu_get_be16s(f, &s->config.rows);
> >>>>
> >>>>     qemu_get_be32s(f, &max_nr_ports);
> >>>>     tswap32s(&max_nr_ports);
> >>>>      ^^^^^^
> >>>>     if (max_nr_ports > tswap32(s->config.max_nr_ports)) {
> >>>>[...]
> >>>>}
> >>>>
> >>>>If we stream subsections after the device descriptor as it is done
> >>>>in VMState, these two will break because the device endian is stale.
> >>>>
> >>>>The first one can be easily dealt with: just defer the sanity check
> >>>>to a post_load function.
> >>>Good, we're lucky here.
> >>>
> >>>>The second is a bit more tricky: the
> >>>>virtio serial migrates its config space (target endian) and the
> >>>>active ports bitmap. The load code assumes max_nr_ports from the
> >>>>config space tells the size of the ports bitmap... that means the
> >>>>virtio migration protocol is also contaminated by target endianness. :-\
> >>>Ouch.
> >>>
> >>>I guess we could break migration in the case of host endianness !=
> >>>target endianness, like this:
> >>>
> >>>      /* These three used to be fetched in target endianness and then
> >>>       * stored as big endian.  It ended up as little endian if host and
> >>>       * target endianness doesn't match.
> >>>       *
> >>>       * Starting with qemu 2.1, we always store as big endian.  The
> >>>       * version wasn't bumped to avoid breaking backwards compatibility.
> >>>       * We check the validity of max_nr_ports, and the incorrect-
> >>>       * endianness max_nr_ports will be huge, which will abort migration
> >>>       * anyway.
> >>>       */
> >>>      uint16_t cols = tswap16(s->config.cols);
> >>>      uint16_t rows = tswap16(s->config.rows);
> >>>      uint32_t max_nr_ports = tswap32(s->config.max_nr_ports);
> >>>
> >>>      qemu_put_be16s(f, &cols);
> >>>      qemu_put_be16s(f, &rows);
> >>>      qemu_put_be32s(f, &max_nr_ports);
> >>>
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>      uint16_t cols, rows;
> >>>
> >>>      qemu_get_be16s(f, &cols);
> >>>      qemu_get_be16s(f, &rows);
> >>>      qemu_get_be32s(f, &max_nr_ports);
> >>>
> >>>      /* Convert back to target endianness when storing into the config
> >>>       * space.
> >>>       */
> >>Paolo,
> >>
> >>The patch set to support endian changing targets adds a device_endian
> >>field to the VirtIODevice structure to be used instead of the default
> >>target endianness as it happens with tswap() macros. It also introduces
> >>virtio_tswap() helpers for this purpose, but they can only be used when
> >>the device_endian field has been restored... in a subsection after the
> >>device descriptor... :-\
> >Store it earlier then, using plain put/get.
> >You can still add a section conditionally to cause
> >a cleaner failure in broken cross-version scenarios.
> >
> >>If the scenario is ppc64le-on-ppc64: tswap() macros don't do anything
> >>and we cannot convert back to LE...
> >>
> >>>      s->config.cols = tswap16(cols);
> >>>      s->config.rows = tswap16(rows);
> >>Since cols and rows are not involved in the protocol, we can safely
> >>defer the conversion to post load.
> >>
> >>>      if (max_nr_ports > tswap32(s->config.max_nr_ports) {
> >>>          ...
> >>>      }
> >>>
> >>Since we know that 0 < max_nr_ports < 32,  is it acceptable to guess
> >>the correct endianness with a heuristic ?
> >>
> >>if (max_nr_ports > tswap32(s->config.max_nr_ports)) {
> >>	max_nr_ports = bswap32(max_nr_ports);
> >>}
> >>
> >>if (max_nr_ports > tswap32(s->config.max_nr_ports)) {
> >>	return -EINVAL;
> >>}
> >>
> >>>>In the case the answer for above is "legacy virtio really sucks" then,
> >>>>is it acceptable to not honor bug-compatibility with older versions and
> >>>>fix the code ? :)
> >>>As long as the common cases don't break, yes.  The question is what are
> >>>the common cases.  Here I think the only non-obscure case that could
> >>>break is x86-on-PPC, and it's not that common.
> >>>
> >>>Paolo
> >>>
> >>Thanks.
> >One starts doubting whether all this hackery is worth it.  virtio 1.0
> >should be out real soon now, it makes everything LE so the problem goes
> >away. It's not like PPC LE is so popular that we must support old drivers
> >at all costs.  Won't time be better spent backporting virtio 1.0 drivers?
> 
> There are already released and working Linux distributions (Ubuntu,
> openSUSE, maybe others) that don't have virtio 1.0 drivers. Putting our
> heads into the sand is not an option ;).
> 
> 
> Alex

I don't get it. Does virtio work there at the moment?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-12  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14 15:41 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/8] virtio: migrate new properties Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/8] virtio: add subsections to the migration stream Greg Kurz
2014-05-15  6:04   ` Amit Shah
2014-05-15  6:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15  6:46       ` Amit Shah
2014-05-15  7:04         ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15  9:20           ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-15  9:52             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15  9:58               ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-15 10:03                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15 10:11                   ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-15 10:16                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15 12:00                       ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-15 12:20                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15 13:47                           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-05-15 13:49                         ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15 12:33               ` Markus Armbruster
2014-05-15 12:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15 13:35                   ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15 10:08             ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15 10:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15 10:21                 ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15 10:16               ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-16  9:14               ` Fam Zheng
2014-05-16  9:22                 ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-16  9:40                   ` Fam Zheng
2014-05-16  9:48                     ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-17 18:29           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15  7:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-15  6:49     ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-15  6:55       ` Amit Shah
2014-05-15  7:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-05-14 15:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/8] virtio-net: migrate subsections Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/8] virtio-blk: " Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 4/8] virtio-scsi: " Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 5/8] virtio-serial: " Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 6/8] virtio-balloon: " Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 7/8] virtio-rng: " Greg Kurz
2014-05-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 8/8] virtio: add endian-ambivalent support to VirtIODevice Greg Kurz
     [not found]   ` <5384A8D2.8050104@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20140529111253.4ff55199@bahia.local>
     [not found]       ` <538708FA.4070309@redhat.com>
2014-06-12  7:43         ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12  7:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12  8:47             ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12  9:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12  9:06               ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12  8:55             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12  9:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-06-12  9:08                 ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12  8:55           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-12  8:57             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12  9:06             ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12  9:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-12  9:37                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12  9:39                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-12  9:43                     ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12 10:14                       ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12 10:39                         ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12 10:50                           ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12 10:58                             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12 10:59                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12 11:10                               ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-12 10:57                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12 10:56                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-12 10:55                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-19  8:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC V2 0/8] virtio: migrate new properties Greg Kurz
2014-05-19  8:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 8/8] virtio: add endian-ambivalent support to VirtIODevice Greg Kurz
2014-05-19 13:06   ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-19 17:06     ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-19 17:32       ` Greg Kurz
2014-05-19 18:07       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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