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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Liuyongan <liuyongan@huawei.com>,
	aliguori@amazon.com, Amos Kong <akong@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 3/3] virtio-net: announce self by guest
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:05:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140613123550.GD1071@grmbl.mre> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5397C3DC.1010406@redhat.com>

On (Wed) 11 Jun 2014 [10:50:04], Jason Wang wrote:
> On 06/10/2014 06:10 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:50:33AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> >> On (Tue) 20 May 2014 [14:01:44], Jason Wang wrote:
> >>> It's hard to track all mac addresses and their configurations (e.g
> >>> vlan or ipv6) in qemu. Without this information, it's impossible to
> >>> build proper garp packet after migration. The only possible solution
> >>> to this is let guest (who knows all configurations) to do this.
> >>>
> >>> So, this patch introduces a new readonly config status bit of virtio-net,
> >>> VIRTIO_NET_S_ANNOUNCE which is used to notify guest to announce
> >>> presence of its link through config update interrupt.When guest has
> >>> done the announcement, it should ack the notification through
> >>> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_ANNOUNCE_ACK cmd. This feature is negotiated by a new
> >>> feature bit VIRTIO_NET_F_ANNOUNCE (which has already been supported by
> >>> Linux guest).
> >>>
> >>> During load, a counter of announcing rounds is set so that after the vm is
> >>> running it can trigger rounds of config interrupts to notify the guest to build
> >>> and send the correct garps.
> >> Live migration is supposed to be transparent to guests.
> >>
> >> Doing things this way makes the guest involved in live migration.
> >> It's not desirable.
> > I'm not sure there's a problem.
> > As long as guest doesn't use networking, it does not
> > need to be involved. If guest does want to use networking,
> > it needs to be involved, but then it's accessing the
> > device anyway.
> >
> >> For networking, this may well be not possible.
> >> Are there any ways of doing this w/o involving the guest that have
> >> been considered?
> >>
> > Since we don't know guest addresses, this looks like the only way to me.

I was afraid of that.

> Yes and this method were also used by Xen and HyperV.

Well there's precedent, but that didn't stop us from trying for
something better in the past ;-)

		Amit

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-13 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-20  6:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] virtio-net: announce self by guest Jason Wang
2014-05-20  6:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 1/3] migration: export SELF_ANNOUNCE_ROUNDS Jason Wang
2014-05-20  6:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 2/3] migration: introduce self_announce_delay() Jason Wang
2014-05-20  6:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 3/3] virtio-net: announce self by guest Jason Wang
2014-06-10  6:20   ` Amit Shah
2014-06-10 10:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-11  2:50       ` Jason Wang
2014-06-13 12:35         ` Amit Shah [this message]
2014-06-11 14:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 0/3] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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