From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] spapr: rework memory nodes
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:25:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140617002500.GL16644@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140616205150.GD8629@otherpad.lan.raisama.net>
On 16.06.2014 [17:51:50 -0300], Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 06:16:29PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > On 06/16/2014 05:53 PM, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > c4177479 "spapr: make sure RMA is in first mode of first memory node"
> > > introduced regression which prevents from running guests with memoryless
> > > NUMA node#0 which may happen on real POWER8 boxes and which would make
> > > sense to debug in QEMU.
> > >
> > > This patchset aim is to fix that and also fix various code problems in
> > > memory nodes generation.
> > >
> > > These 2 patches could be merged (the resulting patch looks rather ugly):
> > > spapr: Use DT memory node rendering helper for other nodes
> > > spapr: Move DT memory node rendering to a helper
> > >
> > > Please comment. Thanks!
> > >
> >
> > Sure I forgot to add an example of what I am trying to run without errors
> > and warnings:
> >
> > /home/aik/qemu-system-ppc64 \
> > -enable-kvm \
> > -machine pseries \
> > -nographic \
> > -vga none \
> > -drive id=id0,if=none,file=virtimg/fc20_24GB.qcow2,format=qcow2 \
> > -device scsi-disk,id=id1,drive=id0 \
> > -m 2080 \
> > -smp 8 \
> > -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
> > -numa node,nodeid=2,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
> > -numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
>
> (Note: I will ignore the "cpus" argument for the discussion below.)
>
> I understand now that the non-contiguous node IDs are guest-visible.
>
> But I still would like to understand the motivations for your use case,
> to understand which solution makes more sense.
>
> If you really want 5 nodes, you just need to write this:
> -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
> -numa node,nodeid=1 \
> -numa node,nodeid=2,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
> -numa node,nodeid=3 \
> -numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
>
> If you just want 3 nodes, you can just write this:
> -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
> -numa node,nodeid=1,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
> -numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
No, this doesn't do what you think it would :)
nb_numa_nodes = 3
but node_mem[0] = 0
node_mem[1] = 1040
node_mem[2] = 0
node_mem[3] = 0
node_mem[4] = 1040
Because of the generic parsing of the numa options.
I'd need to look at my test case again (and this is reproducible on
x86), but I believe it's actually worse if you skip node 0 altogether,
e.g.:
-numa node,nodeid=1,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
-numa node,nodeid=2,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
-numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
Node 0 will have node 4's memory (because we put the rest there, iirc)
and the cpus that should be on node 4 are on node 0 as well).
I'll try to get the exact test results later.
In any case, it's confusing the topology you see in Linux vs. what the
command-line says.
> But you seem to claim you need 3 nodes with non-contiguous IDs. In that
> case, which exactly is the guest-visible difference you expect to get
> between:
> -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
> -numa node,nodeid=1 \
> -numa node,nodeid=2,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
> -numa node,nodeid=3 \
> -numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
I guess here you'd see 5 NUMA nodes in Linux, with 0, 1 and 3 having no
memory.
> and
> -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memory=0 \
> -numa node,nodeid=2,cpus=0-3,mem=1040 \
> -numa node,nodeid=4,cpus=4-7,mem=1040
> ?
And here you'd see 3 NUMA nodes in Linux, with 0 having no memory. I
would think the principle of least surprise means qemu doesn't change
the topology from the user-requested one without any indicate that's
happening?
Thanks,
Nish
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-17 0:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-16 7:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] spapr: rework memory nodes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] spapr: Move DT memory node rendering to a helper Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] spapr: Use DT memory node rendering helper for other nodes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] spapr: Refactor spapr_populate_memory() Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-18 5:04 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-20 19:10 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-21 3:08 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-23 17:41 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-23 22:02 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-20 22:55 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-21 3:06 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-23 17:40 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24 6:07 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-24 17:07 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24 3:08 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24 6:14 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-24 17:01 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-07-21 18:08 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] spapr: Split memory nodes to power-of-two blocks Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-17 7:07 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] spapr: Add a helper for node0_size calculation Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 18:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] spapr: Fix ibm, associativity for memory nodes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 7:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] numa: Allow empty nodes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 16:15 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-16 18:49 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-16 20:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-16 20:31 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-17 0:21 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-17 0:16 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-16 8:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] spapr: rework memory nodes Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-16 18:26 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-16 20:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-17 0:25 ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2014-06-17 1:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-17 18:36 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-17 1:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-17 18:37 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-17 5:51 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-17 14:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-17 18:38 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-17 19:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-18 18:28 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-18 19:33 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-18 23:58 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
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