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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	rusty@ozlabs.au.ibm.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@amazon.com>,
	"Amit Shah" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/20] virtio endian-ambivalent target
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:51:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140619095157.GC2766@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140618143521.3941fd4f@bahia.local>

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On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 02:35:21PM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:38:14 +0800
> Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 09:40:19AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 17.06.14 09:36, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > >On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:18:00PM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > > >>This version merges the changes requested during the v7 review, remarks from
> > > >>ppc64 dump support review (yes, we talked about virtio there) and the work on
> > > >>virtio subsections migration. Also two new patches have been added:
> > > >>- patch #1 is a preliminary fix for virtio-serial posted by Alexander Graf
> > > >>- patch #9 prepares the work on the virtio_is_big_endian() helper
> > > >>
> > > >>The most significant changes are:
> > > >>- introduction of a new CPU method for virtio
> > > >>- endianness is taken from CPU that resets the device
> > > >>- fastpath virtio memory accessors for fixed endian targets
> > > >>- VMState based virtio subsections (compatibility friendly)
> > > >I'm surprised it's not enough for the virtio device to have an
> > > >endianness field (big/little).  It seems these patches make endianness
> > > >depend on the CPUState through which the device is being accessed.
> > > >
> > > >Can you explain why it's necessary to check the CPUState?
> > > 
> > > They only check CPUState at the point in time of reset, as that's the only
> > > case where we can derive the implicit endian configuration from :).
> > 
> > What bothers me is that real hardware can't do this.  Given that VIRTIO
> > 1.0 is always little-endian I guess this is just a temporary hack for
> > ppc little-endian.  Would be nice to add a comment so it's clear why
> > this approach is being taken instead of a cleaner solution.
> > 
> > Stefan
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Previous versions of this patch set had such comments:
> 
> "virtio data structures are defined as "target endian", which assumes
> that's a fixed value.  In fact, that actually means it's platform-specific.
> The OASIS virtio 1.0 spec will fix this, by making all little endian.
> 
> We need to support both implementations and we want to share as much code
> as possible."
> 
> but these lines got lost between v6 and v7... my bad... :-\

Thanks!  I just wasn't mentally prepared when looking through the patch
series, the comment puts it into context.

Stefan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-19  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-13 11:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/20] virtio endian-ambivalent target Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 01/20] virtio-serial: don't migrate the config space Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:33   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-19 10:40   ` Amit Shah
2014-06-19 11:17     ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-19 11:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-13 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 02/20] virtio: introduce device specific migration calls Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 03/20] virtio-net: implement per-device " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 04/20] virtio-blk: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 05/20] virtio-serial: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 06/20] virtio-balloon: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 07/20] virtio-rng: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 08/20] virtio: add subsections to the migration stream Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 09/20] exec: introduce target_words_bigendian() helper Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:41   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-13 12:05     ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 10/20] cpu: introduce CPUClass::virtio_is_big_endian() Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:42   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-13 12:08     ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 11/20] virtio: add endian-ambivalent support to VirtIODevice Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:46   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-13 12:14     ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 12:41       ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-13 12:52         ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 12/20] virtio: memory accessors for endian-ambivalent targets Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 13/20] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 14/20] virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:52   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-13 12:24     ` Cedric Le Goater
2014-06-13 12:40       ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 15/20] virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 16/20] virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 17/20] virtio-scsi: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-19 15:05   ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-20  8:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20  8:33     ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 18/20] virtio-serial-bus: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 19/20] virtio-9p: " Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 20/20] target-ppc: enable virtio endian ambivalent support Greg Kurz
2014-06-13 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/20] virtio endian-ambivalent target Alexander Graf
2014-06-16 15:07   ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-16 16:53     ` Amit Shah
2014-06-17  7:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17  7:40   ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-18 10:38     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-18 12:35       ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-18 15:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-18 15:14           ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-18 15:26             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-19  9:51         ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-06-18 12:53       ` Peter Maydell
2014-06-18 13:42         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-18 14:28           ` Greg Kurz
2014-06-18 15:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-18 15:35             ` Peter Maydell
2014-06-18 15:37               ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-18 15:40                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-06-18 15:41                   ` Alexander Graf

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