From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, benoit.canet@irqsave.net, pkrempa@redhat.com,
famz@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:08:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140623130809.GB26269@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140619162600.GB6096@localhost.localdomain>
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On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:26:00PM -0400, Jeff Cody wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 05:17:16PM +0800, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 05:53:48PM -0400, Jeff Cody wrote:
> > Let's discuss this topic in a sub-thread and figure out what to do for
> > QEMU 2.1. This is an important issue to solve before the release
> > because we can't change QMP command semantics easily later.
> >
> > My questions are:
> > a. How do we fix resize, snapshot-sync, etc? It seems like we need to
> > propagate child op blockers.
> >
> > b. Is it a good idea to perform op blocker checks on the root node?
> > It's inconsistent with resize, snapshot-sync, etc. Permissions in
> > BDS graphs with multiple root nodes (e.g. guest device and NBD
> > run-time server) will be different depending on which root you
> > specify.
>
> I don't think (b) is the ultimate solution. It is used as a stop-gap
> because op blockers in the current implementation is essentially
> analogous to the in-use flag. But is it good enough for 2.1? If
> *everything* checks the topmost node in 2.1, then I think we are OK in
> all cases except where images files share a common BDS.
Checking op blockers on the root node as a stop-gap is a good idea.
Let's apply it across all commands (e.g. snapshot-sync, resize).
Fam pointed out that this approach is vulnerable to blockdev-add, where
blockers could be set/checked on an incomplete BDS graph (since you can
add new nodes on top). Do we need to move the blockers up the graph if
a new root node is inserted?
Besides this issue, your approach seems like the quickest safe solution
for 2.1.
> The ability for internal BDSs to share a common base BDS makes some
> block jobs unsafe currently, I believe. A crude and ugly fix is to
> only allow a single block-job to occur at any given time, but that
> doesn't seem feasible, so let's ignore that.
Right now I don't think we share BDS chains.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-17 21:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names Jeff Cody
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 01/10] block: Auto-generate node_names for each BDS entry Jeff Cody
2014-06-18 12:53 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-18 13:13 ` Jeff Cody
2014-06-18 13:31 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-19 8:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-19 12:30 ` Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 17:03 ` Eric Blake
2014-06-20 4:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-23 12:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 02/10] block: add helper function to determine if a BDS is in a chain Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 6:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-23 10:24 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 03/10] block: simplify bdrv_find_base() and bdrv_find_overlay() Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 6:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 04/10] block: make 'top' argument to block-commit optional Jeff Cody
2014-06-17 22:25 ` Eric Blake
2014-06-19 16:56 ` Eric Blake
2014-06-19 6:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 05/10] block: Accept node-name arguments for block-commit Jeff Cody
2014-06-18 12:58 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 06/10] block: extend block-commit to accept a string for the backing file Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 7:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 07/10] block: add ability for block-stream to use node-name Jeff Cody
2014-06-18 13:06 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-19 8:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 08/10] block: add backing-file option to block-stream Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 8:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 09/10] block: Add QMP documentation for block-stream Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 8:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-17 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 10/10] block: add QAPI command to allow live backing file change Jeff Cody
2014-06-18 13:15 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-19 8:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-19 19:08 ` Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 8:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-19 9:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-06-19 16:26 ` Jeff Cody
2014-06-19 16:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-06-19 16:54 ` Eric Blake
2014-06-19 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Op Blockers on child nodes (was Re: [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use) node-names Jeff Cody
2014-06-24 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 for 2.1 00/10] Modify block jobs to use node-names Kevin Wolf
2014-06-23 13:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-06-23 14:17 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-24 2:48 ` Fam Zheng
2014-06-24 13:32 ` Jeff Cody
2014-06-24 14:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-06-24 15:30 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-19 17:49 ` Benoît Canet
2014-06-24 17:08 ` Jeff Cody
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