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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Hu Tao <hutao@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3] numa: enable sparse node numbering
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:58:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140626175807.GM4323@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140626090924.GA12168@G08FNSTD100614.fnst.cn.fujitsu.com>

On 26.06.2014 [17:09:25 +0800], Hu Tao wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 09:23:17PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 01:52:56PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 09:13:59AM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > > > On 25.06.2014 [13:21:34 +0200], Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:40:38 -0700
> > > > > Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/sysemu/sysemu.h b/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > > > > index 277230d..b90bf66 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > > > > @@ -145,11 +145,13 @@ extern int mem_prealloc;
> > > > > >   */
> > > > > >  #define MAX_CPUMASK_BITS 255
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > -extern int nb_numa_nodes;
> > > > > > +extern int nb_numa_nodes; /* Number of NUMA nodes */
> > > > > > +extern int max_numa_node; /* Highest specified NUMA node ID */
> > > > > >  typedef struct node_info {
> > > > > >      uint64_t node_mem;
> > > > > >      DECLARE_BITMAP(node_cpu, MAX_CPUMASK_BITS);
> > > > > >      struct HostMemoryBackend *node_memdev;
> > > > > > +    bool present;
> > > > > How about dropping 'present' and replacing array with a list
> > > > > of only present nodes?
> > > > 
> > > > If that would be preferred, I can move to that. I assume a simple
> > > > linked-list is fine. Does qemu provide any infrastructure for defining
> > > > lists? I'll look through the source but any pointers would be helpful.
> > > > 
> > > > Generally speaking, sparse NUMA nodes aren't that common and when they
> > > > exist, the gaps aren't large. But it does seem to make sense if we have
> > > > sparse IDs at all, we might as well move to a list.
> > > > 
> > > > In any case, moving to the list means we'd have a nodeid as part of the
> > > > structure instead.
> > > > 
> > > > > That way it will be one more step closer to converting numa
> > > > > infrastructure to a set of QOM objects.
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like a good idea to me. I'll respin the patch soon.
> > > 
> > > Having a list makes sense, the only difference is that keeping a sparse
> > > array sorted is much easier than making a sorted list (because the ACPI
> > > tables are nodeid-ordered). That's why I suggested keeping the array
> > > initially.
> > > 
> > > Adding a "present" field to the array is a trivial and easy-to-review
> > > change. Changing NodeInfo to use linked lists is a more complex change
> > > that I wouldn't want to include after soft freeze.
> > > 
> > > In other words:
> > >  * Having a list is better than a sparse array; but:
> > >  * Having a small sparse array with the "present" field is better
> > >    than broken sparse nodeid support (IMO).
> > 
> > I agree here. This patchset is still RFC but if that's
> > the only issue I might apply it.
> 
> I don't think it is ready for 2.1 since it lacks arch-specific changes.
> The patch itself only makes qemu be able to bring up guest with sparse
> numa nodes, without arch-specific changes, guest sees only one node(at
> least on x86).

Well, it does no harm or foul to have it, on it's own. In that, nothing
is worse or better than it was. Although I would argue the qemu core is
better than it was :) I have sent the powerpc enabling patch, but even
with that, we need Alexey's series of 6 patches (which do fix a
regression) to fully support the sparse numbering. Maybe that means I've
convinced myself it's best to wait until after 2.1.

I honestly am not sure how to "fix" the x86 code to support the sparse
numbering -- the APIC code seems to rely on it being continuous. From
some googling, it seems like the most common reason for non-continuous
numbering on x86 is faulty hardware. I will keep fiddling if no one else
steps up, but I'm not an x86 NUMA expert :)

Thanks,
Nish

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-26 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-23 19:33 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] numa: enable sparse node numbering Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24  0:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24  1:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] ppc/spapr: support sparse NUMA " Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24  3:34     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-24  7:43   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2] numa: enable sparse " Hu Tao
2014-06-24 17:40   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-25 11:21     ` Igor Mammedov
2014-06-25 16:13       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-25 16:52         ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-25 17:04           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-25 18:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26  6:29             ` Igor Mammedov
2014-06-25 18:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26  9:09             ` Hu Tao
2014-06-26 17:58               ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2014-06-26 18:39                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-26 19:37     ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-30 18:26       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2014-06-30 21:48         ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-24  7:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] " Igor Mammedov
2014-06-24  8:58   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-06-24 16:39   ` Nishanth Aravamudan

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