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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"anthony@codemonkey.ws" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	airlied@linux.ie, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Allen M. Kay" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
	"Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com" <Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com>,
	jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"yang.z.zhang@intel.com" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
	"Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] ResettRe: [Xen-devel] [v5][PATCH 0/5] xen: add Intel IGD passthrough support
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:53:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140702165304.GB7595@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140702162337.GB32380@laptop.dumpdata.com>

On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:23:37PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 04:50:15PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 02/07/2014 16:00, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk ha scritto:
> > >With this long thread I lost a bit context about the challenges
> > >that exists. But let me try summarizing it here - which will hopefully
> > >get some consensus.
> > >
> > >1). Fix IGD hardware to not use Southbridge magic addresses.
> > >    We can moan and moan but I doubt it is going to change.
> > 
> > There are two problems:
> > 
> > - Northbridge (i.e. MCH i.e. PCI host bridge) configuration space addresses
> 
> Right. So in  drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_dma.c:
> 1135 #define MCHBAR_I915 0x44                                                        
> 1136 #define MCHBAR_I965 0x48                     
> 
> 1147         int reg = INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4 ? MCHBAR_I965 : MCHBAR_I915;        
> 1152         if (INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4)                                          
> 1153                 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, reg + 4, &temp_hi); 
> 1154         pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, reg, &temp_lo);             
> 1155         mchbar_addr = ((u64)temp_hi << 32) | temp_lo;                
> 
> and
> 
> 1139 #define DEVEN_REG 0x54                                                          
> 
> 1193         int mchbar_reg = INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4 ? MCHBAR_I965 : MCHBAR_I915; 
> 1202         if (IS_I915G(dev) || IS_I915GM(dev)) {                                  
> 1203                 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, DEVEN_REG, &temp);  
> 1204                 enabled = !!(temp & DEVEN_MCHBAR_EN);                           
> 1205         } else {                                                                
> 1206                 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, mchbar_reg, &temp); 
> 1207                 enabled = temp & 1;                                             
> 1208         }                                                
> > 
> > - Southbridge (i.e. PCH i.e. ISA bridge) vendor/device ID; some versions of
> > the driver identify it by class, some versions identify it by slot (1f.0).
> 
> Right, So in  drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c the giant intel_detect_pch
> which sets the pch_type based on :
> 
>  432                 if (pch->vendor == PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL) {                       
>  433                         unsigned short id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
>  434                         dev_priv->pch_id = id;                                  
>  435                                                                                 
>  436                         if (id == INTEL_PCH_IBX_DEVICE_ID_TYPE) { 
> 
> It checks for 0x3b00, 0x1c00, 0x1e00, 0x8c00 and 0x9c00.
> The INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK is 0xff00
> > 
> > To solve the first, make a new machine type, PIIX4-based, and pass through
> > the registers you need.  The patch must document _exactly_ why the registers
> > are safe to pass.  If they are not reserved on PIIX4, the patch must
> > document what the same offsets mean on PIIX4, and why it's sensible to
> > assume that firmware for virtual machine will not read/write them.  Bonus
> > point for also documenting the same for Q35.
> 
> OK. They look to be related to setting up an MBAR , but I don't understand
> why it is needed. Hopefully some of the i915 folks CC-ed here can answer.
> 
> > 
> > Regarding the second, fixing IGD hardware to not rely on chipset magic is a
> > no-go, I agree.  I disagree that it's a no-go to define a "backdoor" that
> > lets a hypervisor pass the right information to the driver without hacking
> > the chipset device model.
> > 
> > The hardware folks would have to give us a place for a pair of registers
> > (something like data/address), and a bit somewhere else that would be always
> > 0 on hardware and always 1 if the hypervisor is implementing the pair of
> > registers.  This is similar to CPUID, which has the HYPERVISOR bit +
> > hypervisor-defined leaves at 0x40000000.
> > 
> > The data/address pair could be in a BAR, in configuration space, in the low
> > VGA ports at 0x3c0-0x3df, wherever.  The hypervisor bit can be in the same
> > place or somewhere else---again, whatever is convenient for the hardware
> > folks.  We just need *one bit* that is known-zero on all hardware, and 8
> > bytes in a reserved area.  I don't think it's too hard to find this space,
> > and I really, really would like Intel to follow up on a paravirtualized
> > backdoor.
> > 
> > That said, we have the problem of existing guests, so I agree something else
> > is needed.
> > 
> > >     a) Two bridges - one 'passthrough' and the legacy ISA bridge
> > >        that QEMU emulates. Both Linux and Windows are OK with
> > >        two bridges (even thought it is pretty weird).
> > 
> > This is pretty much the only solution for existing Linux guests that look up
> > the southbridge by class.
> 
> Right.
> > 
> > The proposed solution here is to define a new "pci stub" device in QEMU that
> > lets you define a do-nothing device with your desired vendor ID, device ID,
> > class and optionally subsystem IDs.
> 
> <nods>
> > 
> > The new machine type (the one that instantiates the special
> > IGD-passthrough-enabled northbridge) can then instantiate this stub device
> > at 1f.0 with the desired vendor ID, device ID and class ID.
> 
> Which is kind of neat because you can use a different type of device ID with 
> (say make it look like Ibex Peak) and pair it up with an IGD that is found
> only on LynxPoint. Oh fun!
> > 
> > If we cannot get the paravirtualized backdoor, it would also make sense to:
> > 
> > - have drivers standardize on a single way to probe the southbridge
> > 
> > - make this be neither by class (because the firmware wants to distinguish
> > the actual ISA bridge from the stub, and it can do so by looking up the
> > class), nor by slot (because this conflicts with the Q35 chipset model that
> > has the southbridge at 1f.0).
> > 
> > mst's proposal was to probe by subsystem id.  I'm not sure I understood the
> > details exactly, but I trust him. :)  However, in case it wasn't clear I
> > think a paravirtualized backdoor would still be better.
> 
> OK, like this:
> 
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> index 651e65e..03f2829 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> @@ -433,6 +433,8 @@ void intel_detect_pch(struct drm_device *dev)
>  			unsigned short id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
>  			dev_priv->pch_id = id;
>  
> +			if (pch->subsystem_vendor == PCI_VENDOR_ID_XEN)
> +				id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
>  			if (id == INTEL_PCH_IBX_DEVICE_ID_TYPE) {
>  				dev_priv->pch_type = PCH_IBX;
>  				DRM_DEBUG_KMS("Found Ibex Peak PCH\n");

No!
The point is to avoid looking at PCH at all, only look at
the card itself.

> > 
> > >     b) One bridge - the one that QEMU emulates - and lets emulate
> > >        more of the registers (by emulate - I mean for some get the
> > >        data from the real hardware).
> > >
> > >           b1). We can't use the legacy because the registers are
> > >                above 256 (is that correct? Did I miss something?)
> > 
> > As I understand it, mst brought up Q35 because the northbridge configuration
> > space layout might be more similar to what the driver expects than for
> > PIIX4.  But I don't think anyone really said whether this is true or false.
> > 
> > I think Q35 is absolutely not a requirement for IGD passthrough, especially
> > until this statement is either proved or disproved.
> 
> OK, so lets drop that.
> > 
> > >4). Code does a bit of sysfs that could use some refacturing with
> > >    the KVM code.
> > >    Problem: More time needed to do the code restructing.
> > 
> > FWIW, I don't really care about code sharing with KVM.  That's a separate
> > problem and it's not necessary to bring it up and make waters even more
> > muddy.
> > 
> 
> OK, lets drop that for now.
> > Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-02 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-25  2:17 [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 0/5] xen: add Intel IGD passthrough support Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 1/5] xen, gfx passthrough: basic graphics " Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  6:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  7:48     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  6:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:06     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:16       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 2/5] xen, gfx passthrough: create pseudo intel isa bridge Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  6:22   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  7:51     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  6:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  8:10     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  8:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  8:39         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  8:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  8:48             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:14                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:21                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:28                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:44                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:58                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-27  7:22                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 19:34                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01  2:21                               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01  5:47                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01  9:50                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01 12:34                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 16:51                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-06-25  2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 3/5] xen, gfx passthrough: support Intel IGD passthrough with VT-D Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  6:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  7:54     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  7:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-27  9:16     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 14:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26  5:34     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26  6:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26  8:26         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 4/5] xen, gfx passthrough: create host bridge to passthrough Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  6:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-27  8:34     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-27 11:26       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-29  7:56         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-29 12:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30  2:52             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 19:42               ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01  2:19                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01 16:49                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01 18:34                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 18:45                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 5/5] xen, gfx passthrough: add opregion mapping Tiejun Chen
2014-06-25  7:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-27  9:22     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-29 11:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30  0:57         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  6:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [v5][PATCH 0/5] xen: add Intel IGD passthrough support Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  7:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  7:56     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  7:35   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  7:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  7:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  8:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  8:39         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  8:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  8:55             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:21                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25  9:50                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:54                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:00                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26  9:18                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26 10:03                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 11:26                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 11:30                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 11:36                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 13:30                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 15:40                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30  2:51                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30  6:48                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30  7:24                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30  9:05                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30  9:38                                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30  9:55                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30 10:20                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 11:18                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-30 11:31                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30 11:28                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01  2:40                                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01  9:12                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01  9:46                                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01 12:33                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02  0:59                                                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-02  6:22                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02  8:45                                                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 19:22                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2014-06-30 19:31                                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ross Philipson
2014-07-01  2:24                                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01  5:39                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 16:47                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01 17:02                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 17:39                                               ` Ross Philipson
2014-07-01 18:06                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 19:29                                                   ` Ross Philipson
2014-07-02  6:11                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02  7:56                                                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-02 11:33                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 14:00                                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 14:07                                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-03  3:00                                                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-03 18:25                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 14:08                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 16:05                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 17:58                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 14:50                                                     ` [Qemu-devel] ResettRe: " Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 15:12                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 19:33                                                         ` Alex Williamson
2014-07-02 16:23                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 16:27                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 16:53                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-07-03  7:32                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-03 18:26                                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-03 19:09                                                             ` [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] " Jesse Barnes
2014-07-03 20:27                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-16 14:20                                                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-17  9:42                                                                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-17 17:37                                                                 ` Kay, Allen M
2014-07-18 13:44                                                                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-19  0:27                                                                     ` Kay, Allen M
2014-07-23 20:54                                                                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-24  1:44                                                                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-25 17:01                                                                           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-29  6:59                                                                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-29  8:32                                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-29  9:14                                                                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-04  6:28                                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-06  6:08                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 15:15                                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Ross Philipson
2014-07-02 15:27                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 16:29                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 16:45                                                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 18:00                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-03  5:57                                                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-03  6:40                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 18:20                                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01 18:38                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02  1:37                                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-02  6:09                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02  7:51                                                     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25  9:55                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:59                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:06                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:28                               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:32                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:37                                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:55                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 12:11                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 13:47                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 13:53                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 14:10                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 14:16                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 14:26                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:09                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:14                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:15                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:28                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25  9:43                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-08 10:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Andrew Barnes

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