From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"anthony@codemonkey.ws" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
airlied@linux.ie, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch,
intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Allen M. Kay" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
"Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com" <Kelly.Zytaruk@amd.com>,
jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"yang.z.zhang@intel.com" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com>,
Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@citrix.com>,
"Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>,
Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] ResettRe: [Xen-devel] [v5][PATCH 0/5] xen: add Intel IGD passthrough support
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:53:04 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140702165304.GB7595@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140702162337.GB32380@laptop.dumpdata.com>
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 12:23:37PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 04:50:15PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 02/07/2014 16:00, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk ha scritto:
> > >With this long thread I lost a bit context about the challenges
> > >that exists. But let me try summarizing it here - which will hopefully
> > >get some consensus.
> > >
> > >1). Fix IGD hardware to not use Southbridge magic addresses.
> > > We can moan and moan but I doubt it is going to change.
> >
> > There are two problems:
> >
> > - Northbridge (i.e. MCH i.e. PCI host bridge) configuration space addresses
>
> Right. So in drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_dma.c:
> 1135 #define MCHBAR_I915 0x44
> 1136 #define MCHBAR_I965 0x48
>
> 1147 int reg = INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4 ? MCHBAR_I965 : MCHBAR_I915;
> 1152 if (INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4)
> 1153 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, reg + 4, &temp_hi);
> 1154 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, reg, &temp_lo);
> 1155 mchbar_addr = ((u64)temp_hi << 32) | temp_lo;
>
> and
>
> 1139 #define DEVEN_REG 0x54
>
> 1193 int mchbar_reg = INTEL_INFO(dev)->gen >= 4 ? MCHBAR_I965 : MCHBAR_I915;
> 1202 if (IS_I915G(dev) || IS_I915GM(dev)) {
> 1203 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, DEVEN_REG, &temp);
> 1204 enabled = !!(temp & DEVEN_MCHBAR_EN);
> 1205 } else {
> 1206 pci_read_config_dword(dev_priv->bridge_dev, mchbar_reg, &temp);
> 1207 enabled = temp & 1;
> 1208 }
> >
> > - Southbridge (i.e. PCH i.e. ISA bridge) vendor/device ID; some versions of
> > the driver identify it by class, some versions identify it by slot (1f.0).
>
> Right, So in drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c the giant intel_detect_pch
> which sets the pch_type based on :
>
> 432 if (pch->vendor == PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL) {
> 433 unsigned short id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
> 434 dev_priv->pch_id = id;
> 435
> 436 if (id == INTEL_PCH_IBX_DEVICE_ID_TYPE) {
>
> It checks for 0x3b00, 0x1c00, 0x1e00, 0x8c00 and 0x9c00.
> The INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK is 0xff00
> >
> > To solve the first, make a new machine type, PIIX4-based, and pass through
> > the registers you need. The patch must document _exactly_ why the registers
> > are safe to pass. If they are not reserved on PIIX4, the patch must
> > document what the same offsets mean on PIIX4, and why it's sensible to
> > assume that firmware for virtual machine will not read/write them. Bonus
> > point for also documenting the same for Q35.
>
> OK. They look to be related to setting up an MBAR , but I don't understand
> why it is needed. Hopefully some of the i915 folks CC-ed here can answer.
>
> >
> > Regarding the second, fixing IGD hardware to not rely on chipset magic is a
> > no-go, I agree. I disagree that it's a no-go to define a "backdoor" that
> > lets a hypervisor pass the right information to the driver without hacking
> > the chipset device model.
> >
> > The hardware folks would have to give us a place for a pair of registers
> > (something like data/address), and a bit somewhere else that would be always
> > 0 on hardware and always 1 if the hypervisor is implementing the pair of
> > registers. This is similar to CPUID, which has the HYPERVISOR bit +
> > hypervisor-defined leaves at 0x40000000.
> >
> > The data/address pair could be in a BAR, in configuration space, in the low
> > VGA ports at 0x3c0-0x3df, wherever. The hypervisor bit can be in the same
> > place or somewhere else---again, whatever is convenient for the hardware
> > folks. We just need *one bit* that is known-zero on all hardware, and 8
> > bytes in a reserved area. I don't think it's too hard to find this space,
> > and I really, really would like Intel to follow up on a paravirtualized
> > backdoor.
> >
> > That said, we have the problem of existing guests, so I agree something else
> > is needed.
> >
> > > a) Two bridges - one 'passthrough' and the legacy ISA bridge
> > > that QEMU emulates. Both Linux and Windows are OK with
> > > two bridges (even thought it is pretty weird).
> >
> > This is pretty much the only solution for existing Linux guests that look up
> > the southbridge by class.
>
> Right.
> >
> > The proposed solution here is to define a new "pci stub" device in QEMU that
> > lets you define a do-nothing device with your desired vendor ID, device ID,
> > class and optionally subsystem IDs.
>
> <nods>
> >
> > The new machine type (the one that instantiates the special
> > IGD-passthrough-enabled northbridge) can then instantiate this stub device
> > at 1f.0 with the desired vendor ID, device ID and class ID.
>
> Which is kind of neat because you can use a different type of device ID with
> (say make it look like Ibex Peak) and pair it up with an IGD that is found
> only on LynxPoint. Oh fun!
> >
> > If we cannot get the paravirtualized backdoor, it would also make sense to:
> >
> > - have drivers standardize on a single way to probe the southbridge
> >
> > - make this be neither by class (because the firmware wants to distinguish
> > the actual ISA bridge from the stub, and it can do so by looking up the
> > class), nor by slot (because this conflicts with the Q35 chipset model that
> > has the southbridge at 1f.0).
> >
> > mst's proposal was to probe by subsystem id. I'm not sure I understood the
> > details exactly, but I trust him. :) However, in case it wasn't clear I
> > think a paravirtualized backdoor would still be better.
>
> OK, like this:
>
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> index 651e65e..03f2829 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_drv.c
> @@ -433,6 +433,8 @@ void intel_detect_pch(struct drm_device *dev)
> unsigned short id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
> dev_priv->pch_id = id;
>
> + if (pch->subsystem_vendor == PCI_VENDOR_ID_XEN)
> + id = pch->device & INTEL_PCH_DEVICE_ID_MASK;
> if (id == INTEL_PCH_IBX_DEVICE_ID_TYPE) {
> dev_priv->pch_type = PCH_IBX;
> DRM_DEBUG_KMS("Found Ibex Peak PCH\n");
No!
The point is to avoid looking at PCH at all, only look at
the card itself.
> >
> > > b) One bridge - the one that QEMU emulates - and lets emulate
> > > more of the registers (by emulate - I mean for some get the
> > > data from the real hardware).
> > >
> > > b1). We can't use the legacy because the registers are
> > > above 256 (is that correct? Did I miss something?)
> >
> > As I understand it, mst brought up Q35 because the northbridge configuration
> > space layout might be more similar to what the driver expects than for
> > PIIX4. But I don't think anyone really said whether this is true or false.
> >
> > I think Q35 is absolutely not a requirement for IGD passthrough, especially
> > until this statement is either proved or disproved.
>
> OK, so lets drop that.
> >
> > >4). Code does a bit of sysfs that could use some refacturing with
> > > the KVM code.
> > > Problem: More time needed to do the code restructing.
> >
> > FWIW, I don't really care about code sharing with KVM. That's a separate
> > problem and it's not necessary to bring it up and make waters even more
> > muddy.
> >
>
> OK, lets drop that for now.
> > Paolo
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2014-06-25 8:10 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 8:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 8:39 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 8:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2014-06-25 9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2014-06-25 9:28 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-06-25 9:58 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-27 7:22 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 19:34 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01 2:21 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-07-01 9:50 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-01 12:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2014-06-25 7:54 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-06-25 14:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2014-06-26 6:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 8:26 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-06-25 6:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-27 8:34 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-27 11:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-29 7:56 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-06-30 2:52 ` Chen, Tiejun
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2014-06-25 7:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 7:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 8:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 8:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 8:55 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 9:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 9:21 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 9:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 9:50 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 9:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 9:18 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-26 10:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 11:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-26 13:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-26 15:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30 2:51 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 6:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30 7:24 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 9:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-30 9:38 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2014-07-24 1:44 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-25 17:01 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-29 6:59 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-29 8:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-29 9:14 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-04 6:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-06 6:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ross Philipson
2014-07-02 15:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 16:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 16:45 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-02 18:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-03 5:57 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-03 6:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 18:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-07-01 18:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 1:37 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-02 6:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 7:51 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 9:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:06 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:28 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:37 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 13:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 13:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 14:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 14:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 14:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 10:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 10:15 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-06-25 9:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-08 10:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Andrew Barnes
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