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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Gabriel Somlo <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] e1000: Delay LSC until mask is active
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 23:18:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140703201815.GD29214@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53B59A24.5090000@suse.de>

On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 08:00:04PM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 03.07.14 19:57, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >On 3 July 2014 18:39, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
> >>Mac OS X reads ICR on every interrupt. When the IRQ line is shared, this may
> >>result in a race where LSC is not interpreted yet, but already gets cleared.
> >>
> >>The guest already has a way of telling us that it can interpret LSC events
> >>though and that's via the interrupt mask register (IMS).
> >>
> >>So if we just leave the LSC interrupt bit pending, but invisible to the guest
> >>as long as it's not ready to receive LSC interrupts, we basically defer the
> >>interrupt to the earliest point in time when the guest would know how to
> >>handle it.
> >This would break any guests dealing with this in a polling
> >mode (ie "permanently leave interrupts masked and read
> >ICR periodically to find out whether anything interesting
> >has happened"), right?
> 
> If those guests would wait for a link detect event that way, yes.
> 
> Considering all the hackery we already have about link negotiation (delay it
> until a random amount of ms passed) I'd say the breakage this patch fixes is
> a lot more likely than a polling guest that waits for a link based on
> ICR.LSC :).
> 
> 
> Alex

Well that hackery was justified by the claim that real hardware behaves
this way: it has a random delay since it needs a bit of time to bring
the link up.

What's the justification here? How come this driver works with
real hardware?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-03 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-03 17:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] e1000: Delay LSC until mask is active Alexander Graf
2014-07-03 17:57 ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-03 18:00   ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-03 20:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-07-28 14:07       ` Alexander Graf

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