From: Liu Yuan <namei.unix@gmail.com>
To: "Benoît Canet" <benoit.canet@irqsave.net>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/2] block/quorum: add simple read pattern support
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:44:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140821094406.GC20657@ubuntu-trusty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140818055928.GA8722@ubuntu-trusty>
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 01:59:28PM +0800, Liu Yuan wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 03:59:04PM +0200, Benoît Canet wrote:
> > The Friday 15 Aug 2014 à 13:05:17 (+0800), Liu Yuan wrote :
> > > This patch adds single read pattern to quorum driver and quorum vote is default
> > > pattern.
> > >
> > > For now we do a quorum vote on all the reads, it is designed for unreliable
> > > underlying storage such as non-redundant NFS to make sure data integrity at the
> > > cost of the read performance.
> > >
> > > For some use cases as following:
> > >
> > > VM
> > > --------------
> > > | |
> > > v v
> > > A B
> > >
> > > Both A and B has hardware raid storage to justify the data integrity on its own.
> > > So it would help performance if we do a single read instead of on all the nodes.
> > > Further, if we run VM on either of the storage node, we can make a local read
> > > request for better performance.
> > >
> > > This patch generalize the above 2 nodes case in the N nodes. That is,
> > >
> > > vm -> write to all the N nodes, read just one of them. If single read fails, we
> > > try to read next node in FIFO order specified by the startup command.
> > >
> > > The 2 nodes case is very similar to DRBD[1] though lack of auto-sync
> > > functionality in the single device/node failure for now. But compared with DRBD
> > > we still have some advantages over it:
> > >
> > > - Suppose we have 20 VMs running on one(assume A) of 2 nodes' DRBD backed
> > > storage. And if A crashes, we need to restart all the VMs on node B. But for
> > > practice case, we can't because B might not have enough resources to setup 20 VMs
> > > at once. So if we run our 20 VMs with quorum driver, and scatter the replicated
> > > images over the data center, we can very likely restart 20 VMs without any
> > > resource problem.
> > >
> > > After all, I think we can build a more powerful replicated image functionality
> > > on quorum and block jobs(block mirror) to meet various High Availibility needs.
> > >
> > > E.g, Enable single read pattern on 2 children,
> > >
> > > -drive driver=quorum,children.0.file.filename=0.qcow2,\
> > > children.1.file.filename=1.qcow2,read-pattern=fifo,vote-threshold=1
> > >
> > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Replicated_Block_Device
> > >
> > > Cc: Benoit Canet <benoit@irqsave.net>
> > > Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
> > > Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Liu Yuan <namei.unix@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > block/quorum.c | 176 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> > > 1 file changed, 129 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/block/quorum.c b/block/quorum.c
> > > index d5ee9c0..1235d7c 100644
> > > --- a/block/quorum.c
> > > +++ b/block/quorum.c
> > > @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
> > > #define QUORUM_OPT_VOTE_THRESHOLD "vote-threshold"
> > > #define QUORUM_OPT_BLKVERIFY "blkverify"
> > > #define QUORUM_OPT_REWRITE "rewrite-corrupted"
> > > +#define QUORUM_OPT_READ_PATTERN "read-pattern"
> > >
> > > /* This union holds a vote hash value */
> > > typedef union QuorumVoteValue {
> > > @@ -74,6 +75,8 @@ typedef struct BDRVQuorumState {
> > > bool rewrite_corrupted;/* true if the driver must rewrite-on-read corrupted
> > > * block if Quorum is reached.
> > > */
> > > +
> > > + QuorumReadPattern read_pattern;
> > > } BDRVQuorumState;
> > >
> > > typedef struct QuorumAIOCB QuorumAIOCB;
> > > @@ -117,6 +120,7 @@ struct QuorumAIOCB {
> > >
> > > bool is_read;
> > > int vote_ret;
> > > + int child_iter; /* which child to read in fifo pattern */
> >
> > I don't understand what "fifo pattern" could mean for a bunch of disk
> > as they are not forming a queue.
>
> Naming isn't 100% accurate but as in Eric's comment (see below), both FIFO and
> Round-Robin can be used for two different patterns.
>
> > Maybe round-robin is more suitable but your code does not implement
> > round-robin since it will alway start from the first disk.
> >
> > Your code is scanning the disks set it's a scan pattern.
> >
> > That said is it a problem that the first disk will be accessed more often than the other ?
>
> As my commit log documented, the purpose of the read pattern I added is to
> speed up read against quorum original read pattern. And the use case is clear
> (I hope so) and you can take DRBD as a good example for why we need it. Of
> course we are far away from DRBD, which need a recovery logic after all kinds of
> failures. My patch set can be taken as a prelimitary step to implement a DRBD
> like service driver.
>
> Eric previously commented on two read patterns that might be useful:
>
> "Should we offer multiple modes in addition to 'quorum'? For example, I
> could see a difference between 'fifo' (favor read from the first quorum
> member always, unless it fails, good when the first member is local and
> other member is remote) and 'round-robin' (evenly distribute reads; each
> read goes to the next available quorum member, good when all members are
> equally distant)."
>
> > You will have to care to insert disks in different order on each QEMU to spread the load.
>
> This is another use case that my patch set didn't try to solve.
>
> > Shouldn't the code try to spread the load by circling on the disk like a real round robin pattern ?
>
> Probably not on my patch set, but we can add a yet another round robin pattern
> if anyone is intrested.
Benoit, ping...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-21 9:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-15 5:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/2] add read-pattern for block qourum Liu Yuan
2014-08-15 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/2] qapi: add read-pattern enum for quorum Liu Yuan
2014-08-15 11:59 ` Benoît Canet
2014-08-15 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/2] block/quorum: add simple read pattern support Liu Yuan
2014-08-15 13:59 ` Benoît Canet
2014-08-18 5:59 ` Liu Yuan
2014-08-21 9:44 ` Liu Yuan [this message]
2014-08-21 12:11 ` Benoît Canet
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