From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>,
"aik@au1.ibm.com" <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
Aravinda Prasad <aravinda@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 1/5] target-ppc: Extend rtas-blob
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:46:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140829034635.GD1930@voom.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B45736D7-FBB9-4036-A629-7FFC6CFBD6B4@suse.de>
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On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 03:33:59AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
>
> > Am 29.08.2014 um 03:06 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 02:40 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 29.08.14 00:25, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 2014-08-29 at 00:18 +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >>>> I strongly disagree with David. Legally there is no difference between a
> >>>> .bin file that contains code and an array made of instructions. And the
> >>>> more target code we can keep outside of QEMU the better.
> >>>
> >>> Ugh ... having a separate file with it's own build system etc... for 5
> >>> instructions is borderline ridiculous too :-)
> >>
> >> Then don't use it - nobody's forcing you to do so :). Just use the
> >> provided binary. I fail to see the difference between
> >>
> >> uint32_t rtas_blob[] = { INST_SC1, INST_BLR };
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> uint32_t *rtas_blob;
> >> load_file_from_disk(rtas_blob);
> >>
> >> except that we're using an actual assembler ;).
> >
> > So you fail to see the difference with an array of 5 words vs. running
> > through thousands of instructions & syscall to read those same 5 words
> > from disk ? :-)
>
> I fail to see a problem, yeah :). Imagine the same thing on x86 with
> its completely messed up instruction set. Would you still advocate
> for in-qemu code or would you prefer to have a compiler between you
> and the ugly opcodes?
If it was only 20 bytes worth, and by it's nature unlikely to need
changing, then, yes, I would, even with the extra x86 ugliness.
Assuming it was well commented, obviously.
--
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| _way_ _around_!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-29 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-25 13:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] target-ppc: Add FWNMI support in QEMU for powerKVM guests Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] target-ppc: Extend rtas-blob Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 5:38 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 6:34 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 7:24 ` David Gibson
2014-08-28 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 18:20 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 22:18 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 22:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29 0:40 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-29 1:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29 1:33 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-29 2:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-29 3:46 ` David Gibson [this message]
2014-08-29 3:47 ` David Gibson
2014-09-01 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-01 11:23 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 4:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02 5:25 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 5:49 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02 5:56 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 6:34 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02 7:07 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 8:40 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-09-02 9:30 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-02 13:17 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] target-ppc: Register and handle HCALL to receive updated RTAS region Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 5:39 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 6:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-26 7:24 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 20:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] target-ppc: Build error log Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 5:47 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 6:40 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27 9:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 6:12 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 8:36 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 10:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 10:29 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 10:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 10:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-28 17:17 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 20:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-08-30 8:06 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] target-ppc: Handle ibm, nmi-register RTAS call Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 6:02 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 6:57 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27 10:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 6:38 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 8:37 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 13:06 ` Tom Musta
2014-08-28 13:11 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 17:42 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 22:16 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-30 8:08 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-04 8:25 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-04 13:09 ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-04 13:49 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-05 8:46 ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-05 8:52 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-09-07 20:47 ` Alexander Graf
2014-09-26 3:58 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-10-06 6:32 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-10-06 9:40 ` Alexander Graf
2014-10-06 11:01 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-25 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] target-ppc: Handle cases when multi-processors get machine-check Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-26 6:04 ` David Gibson
2014-08-26 7:04 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-27 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 6:56 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-08-28 8:39 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 8:42 ` Alexander Graf
2014-08-28 17:45 ` Aravinda Prasad
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