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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, allen.m.kay@intel.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/2] xen:i386:pc_piix: create isa bridge specific to IGD passthrough
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:05:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140901060506.GA20186@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5403DEFD.1020704@intel.com>

On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 10:50:37AM +0800, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
> On 2014/8/31 16:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 09:28:50AM +0800, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>On 2014/8/28 8:56, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>+     */
> >>>>>>>>>+    dev = pci_create_simple(bus, PCI_DEVFN(0x1f, 0),
> >>>>>>>>>+                            "xen-igd-passthrough-isa-bridge");
> >>>>>>>>>+    if (dev) {
> >>>>>>>>>+        r = xen_host_pci_device_get(&hdev, 0, 0, PCI_DEVFN(0x1f,
> >>>>>>>>>0), 0);
> >>>>>>>>>+        if (!r) {
> >>>>>>>>>+            pci_config_set_vendor_id(dev->config, hdev.vendor_id);
> >>>>>>>>>+            pci_config_set_device_id(dev->config, hdev.device_id);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Can you, instead, implement the reverse logic, probing
> >>>>>>the card and supplying the correct device id for PCH?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here what is your so-called reverse logic as I already asked you
> >>>>>previously? Do you mean I should list all PCHs with a combo illustrated
> >>>>>with the vendor/device id in advance? Then look up if we can find a
> >>>>
> >>>>Michael,
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Ping.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>Tiejun
> >>>
> >>>>Could you explain this exactly? Then I can try follow-up your idea ASAP
> >>>>if this is necessary and possible.
> >>
> >>Michel,
> >>
> >>Could you give us some explanation for your "reverse logic" when you're
> >>free?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Tiejun
> >
> >So future drivers will look at device ID for the card
> >and figure out how things should work from there.
> >Old drivers still poke at device id of the chipset for this,
> >but maybe qemu can do what newer drivers do:
> >look at the card and figure out what guest should do,
> >then present the appropriate chipset id.
> >
> >This is based on what Jesse said:
> >	Practically speaking, we could probably assume specific GPU/PCH combos,
> >	as I don't think they're generally mixed across generations, though SNB
> >	and IVB did have compatible sockets, so there is the possibility of
> >	mixing CPT and PPT PCHs, but those are register identical as far as the
> >	graphics driver is concerned, so even that should be safe.
> >
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your explanation.
> 
> >so the idea is to have a reverse table mapping GPU back to PCH.
> >Present to guest the ID that will let it assume the correct GPU.
> 
> I guess you mean we should create to maintain such a table:
> 
> [GPU Card: device_id(s), PCH: device_id]
> 
> Then each time, instead of exposing that real PCH device id directly, qemu
> first can get the real GPU device id to lookup this table to present a
> appropriate PCH's device id to the guest.
> 
> And looks here that appropriate PCH's device id is not always a that real
> PCH's device id. Right? If I'm wrong please correct me.

Exactly: we don't really care what the PCH ID is - we only need it
for the guest driver to do the right thing.

> >
> >the problem with these tables is they are hard to keep up to date
> 
> Yeah. But I think currently we can just start from some modern CPU such as
> HSW and BDW, then things could be easy.
> 
> Allen,
> 
> Any idea to this suggestion?
> 
> >as new hardware comes out, but as future hardware won't need
> >these hacks, we shall be fine.
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> Thanks
> Tiejun
> 
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>Tiejun
> >>>>
> >>>>>matched PCH? If yes, what is that benefit you expect in passthrough
> >>>>>case? Shouldn't we pass these info to VM directly in passthrough case?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>Tiejun
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-01  6:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-21  1:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qemu:xen: implement isa bridge specific to IGD passthrough Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21  1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] hw:xen:xen_pt: register " Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21  1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] xen:i386:pc_piix: create " Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21 16:16   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-08-22  1:06     ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-24 11:12       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-25  5:18         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-26  2:49           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-28  0:56             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-29  1:28               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-31  8:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01  2:50                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-01  6:05                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-09-01  7:49                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-03  1:40                         ` Kay, Allen M
2014-09-03  6:27                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 15:06                             ` Kay, Allen M
2014-09-28  2:59                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-28  5:38                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-07  7:27                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-09  2:16                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-29 10:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-30  2:43                               ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-07  1:02                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-07  7:26                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-09  5:53                                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-12  9:50                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-24  7:36                                       ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-24 13:47                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-30  7:47                                           ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03  7:48                                             ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 11:35                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03 11:36                                                 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 11:47                                                   ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 12:01                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03 13:10                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-05  7:23                                                         ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-22 18:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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