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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, nick@bytemark.co.uk,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Hani Benhabiles <kroosec@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	w@uter.be
Subject: [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 17:44:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140903164417.GA32748@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)

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Hi,
QEMU offers both NBD client and server functionality.  The NBD protocol
runs unencrypted, which is a problem when the client and server
communicate over an untrusted network.

The particular use case that prompted this mail is storage migration in
OpenStack.  The goal is to encrypt the NBD connection between source and
destination hosts during storage migration.

I think we can integrate TLS into the NBD protocol as an optional flag.
A quick web search does not reveal existing open source SSL/TLS NBD
implementations.  I do see a VMware NBDSSL protocol but there is no
specification so I guess it is proprietary.

The NBD protocol starts with a negotiation phase.  This would be the
appropriate place to indicate that TLS will be used.  After client and
server complete TLS setup the connection can continue as normal.

Besides QEMU, the userspace NBD tools (http://nbd.sf.net/) can also be
extended to support TLS.  In this case the kernel needs a localhost
socket and userspace handles TLS.

Thoughts?

Stefan

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             reply	other threads:[~2014-09-03 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-03 16:44 Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-09-04 14:19 ` [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 14:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-04 15:04     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 15:45       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 15:54     ` John Snow
2014-09-04 22:07   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-04 22:54     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-05  8:42       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:15       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 22:02 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05  8:13   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:34     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05  6:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-09-05  8:10   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hani Benhabiles
2014-09-05 12:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05 13:26   ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-01 20:23     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-02 11:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 13:50         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-08 18:16           ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-09 12:42             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 11:05       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-02 11:28         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-17 22:03           ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBD Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-18  6:33             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20  7:58               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20  9:56                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-20 11:51                   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-20 11:56                     ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-20 12:48                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20 22:10                       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  9:35                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-21 18:02                           ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-20 12:08                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20 21:53                     ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBDµ Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  8:17                       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-21 18:30                         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-25 10:43                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-30 10:40                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 18:15                               ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-11-03 14:30                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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