From: "Benoît Canet" <benoit.canet@irqsave.net>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
Hani Benhabiles <kroosec@gmail.com>,
nick@bytemark.co.uk, w@uter.be,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:19:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140904141916.GA28417@irqsave.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140903164417.GA32748@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>
The Wednesday 03 Sep 2014 à 17:44:17 (+0100), Stefan Hajnoczi wrote :
> Hi,
> QEMU offers both NBD client and server functionality. The NBD protocol
> runs unencrypted, which is a problem when the client and server
> communicate over an untrusted network.
>
> The particular use case that prompted this mail is storage migration in
> OpenStack. The goal is to encrypt the NBD connection between source and
> destination hosts during storage migration.
I agree this would be usefull.
>
> I think we can integrate TLS into the NBD protocol as an optional flag.
> A quick web search does not reveal existing open source SSL/TLS NBD
> implementations. I do see a VMware NBDSSL protocol but there is no
> specification so I guess it is proprietary.
>
> The NBD protocol starts with a negotiation phase. This would be the
> appropriate place to indicate that TLS will be used. After client and
> server complete TLS setup the connection can continue as normal.
Prenegociating TLS look like we will accidentaly introduce some security hole.
Why not just using a dedicated port and let the TLS handshake happen normaly ?
Best regards
Benoît
>
> Besides QEMU, the userspace NBD tools (http://nbd.sf.net/) can also be
> extended to support TLS. In this case the kernel needs a localhost
> socket and userspace handles TLS.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-04 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-03 16:44 [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 14:19 ` Benoît Canet [this message]
2014-09-04 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-04 15:04 ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 15:45 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 15:54 ` John Snow
2014-09-04 22:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-04 22:54 ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-05 8:42 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 22:02 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 8:13 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05 8:34 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05 6:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-09-05 8:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05 8:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hani Benhabiles
2014-09-05 12:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05 13:26 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-01 20:23 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-02 11:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 13:50 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-08 18:16 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-09 12:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 11:05 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-02 11:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-17 22:03 ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBD Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-18 6:33 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20 7:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20 9:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-20 11:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-20 11:56 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-20 12:48 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20 22:10 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21 9:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-21 18:02 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-20 12:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20 21:53 ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBDµ Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21 8:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-21 18:30 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-25 10:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-30 10:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 18:15 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-11-03 14:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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