From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 15:37:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141007133710.GA2342@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141007111026.GD30762@node.dhcp.inet.fi>
Hi Kirill,
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 02:10:26PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 07:08:00PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > There's one constraint enforced to allow this simplification: the
> > source pages passed to remap_anon_pages must be mapped only in one
> > vma, but this is not a limitation when used to handle userland page
> > faults with MADV_USERFAULT. The source addresses passed to
> > remap_anon_pages should be set as VM_DONTCOPY with MADV_DONTFORK to
> > avoid any risk of the mapcount of the pages increasing, if fork runs
> > in parallel in another thread, before or while remap_anon_pages runs.
>
> Have you considered triggering COW instead of adding limitation on
> pages' mapcount? The limitation looks artificial from interface POV.
I haven't considered it, mostly because I see it as a feature that it
returns -EBUSY. I prefer to avoid the risk of userland getting a
successful retval but internally the kernel silently behaving
non-zerocopy by mistake because some userland bug forgot to set
MADV_DONTFORK on the src_vma.
COW would be not zerocopy so it's not ok. We get sub 1msec latency for
userfaults through 10gbit and we don't want to risk wasting CPU
caches.
I however considered allowing to extend the strict behavior (i.e. the
feature) later in a backwards compatible way. We could provide a
non-zerocopy beahvior with a RAP_ALLOW_COW flag that would then turn
the -EBUSY error into a copy.
It's also more complex to implement the cow now, so it would make the
code that really matters, harder to review. So it may be preferable to
extend this later in a backwards compatible way with a new
RAP_ALLOW_COW flag.
The current handling the flags is already written in a way that should
allow backwards compatible extension with RAP_ALLOW_*:
#define RAP_ALLOW_SRC_HOLES (1UL<<0)
SYSCALL_DEFINE4(remap_anon_pages,
unsigned long, dst_start, unsigned long, src_start,
unsigned long, len, unsigned long, flags)
[..]
long err = -EINVAL;
[..]
if (flags & ~RAP_ALLOW_SRC_HOLES)
return err;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-07 13:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-03 17:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] RFC: userfault v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] mm: gup: add FOLL_TRIED Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-03 20:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] mm: gup: add get_user_pages_locked and get_user_pages_unlocked Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] mm: gup: use get_user_pages_unlocked within get_user_pages_fast Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] mm: gup: make get_user_pages_fast and __get_user_pages_fast latency conscious Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-06 14:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] mm: gup: use get_user_pages_fast and get_user_pages_unlocked Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] kvm: Faults which trigger IO release the mmap_sem Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT: prepare vm_flags to allow more than 32bits Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 9:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-11-06 20:08 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] mm: madvise MADV_USERFAULT Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 23:13 ` Mike Hommey
2014-10-06 17:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 10:36 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 10:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 10:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-03 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] mm: PT lock: export double_pt_lock/unlock Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] mm: rmap preparation for remap_anon_pages Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-06 8:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-06 16:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 12:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-07 14:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-07 15:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-07 16:13 ` Peter Feiner
2014-10-07 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-10-07 17:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 17:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 17:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-10-07 13:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] mm: swp_entry_swapcount Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] mm: sys_remap_anon_pages Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] waitqueue: add nr wake parameter to __wake_up_locked_key Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] userfaultfd: add new syscall to provide memory externalization Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] userfaultfd: make userfaultfd_write non blocking Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] powerpc: add remap_anon_pages and userfaultfd Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-03 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] userfaultfd: implement USERFAULTFD_RANGE_REGISTER|UNREGISTER Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-27 9:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] RFC: userfault v2 zhanghailiang
2014-10-29 17:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-29 17:56 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-21 20:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-21 23:05 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-10-30 11:31 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-30 12:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-31 1:26 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-19 18:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-20 2:54 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-20 17:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-21 7:19 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 2:23 ` Peter Feiner
2014-10-31 3:29 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 4:38 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 5:17 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2014-10-31 8:11 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-31 19:39 ` Peter Feiner
2014-11-01 8:48 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-20 17:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-12 7:18 ` zhanghailiang
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