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From: Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Hani Benhabiles <kroosec@gmail.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, mprivozn@redhat.com,
	nbd-general@lists.sf.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	nick@bytemark.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:16:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141008181610.GA27382@grep.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002135057.GA20677@grep.be>

On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 03:50:57PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Il 01/10/2014 22:23, Wouter Verhelst ha scritto:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:26:09PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > >> Tunneling the entire protocol inside an SSL connection doesn't fix that;
> > >> if an attacker is able to hijack your TCP connections and change flags,
> > >> then this attacker is also able to hijack your TCP connection and
> > >> redirect it to a decrypting/encrypting proxy.
> > >>
> > >> I agree that preventing a possible SSL downgrade attack (and other forms
> > >> of MITM) should be high on the priority list, but "tunnel the whole
> > >> thing in SSL" doesn't do that.
> > > 
> > > So, having given this some thought, I wanted to come up with a spec just
> > > so that we had something we could all agree on. As part of that, I had a
> > > look at qemu-nbd, and noticed that it uses the "oldstyle" handshake
> > > protocol (on port 10809 by default -- ew, please don't do that).
> > 
> > Can you use new-style handshake with a single unnamed export?  Export
> > names are a useless complication for qemu-nbd.
> 
> Not currently, but I don't think you need that. You could have a default
> name, which would be used if no name was otherwise specified. It's not
> much of a stretch to make that name part of the protocol spec, either.

So. I think this makes sense, and as such changed the proto.txt file as
follows:

diff --git a/doc/proto.txt b/doc/proto.txt
index e0a4fb1..990d012 100644
--- a/doc/proto.txt
+++ b/doc/proto.txt
@@ -242,10 +242,13 @@ Option types
 * NBD_OPT_EXPORT_NAME (1)
   Choose the export which the client would like to use, and end option
   haggling. Data: name of the export, free-form UTF8 text (subject to
   limitations by server implementation). If the chosen export does not
   exist, the server closes the connection.
+  A special, "empty", name (i.e., the length field is zero and no name
+  is specified), is reserved for a "default" export, to be used in cases
+  where explicitly specifying an export name makes no sense.
 
 * NBD_OPT_ABORT (2)
   Abort negotiation and close the connection. Optional.
 
 * NBD_OPT_LIST (3)

That is, specify an empty name to specify a default.

Thoughts?

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  -- Barack Obama, speaking in Brussels, Belgium, 2014-03-26

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-08 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-03 16:44 [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 14:19 ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 14:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-04 15:04     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 15:45       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 15:54     ` John Snow
2014-09-04 22:07   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-04 22:54     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-05  8:42       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:15       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 22:02 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05  8:13   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:34     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05  6:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-09-05  8:10   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hani Benhabiles
2014-09-05 12:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05 13:26   ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-01 20:23     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-02 11:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 13:50         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-08 18:16           ` Wouter Verhelst [this message]
2014-10-09 12:42             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 11:05       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-02 11:28         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-17 22:03           ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBD Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-18  6:33             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20  7:58               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20  9:56                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-20 11:51                   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-20 11:56                     ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-20 12:48                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20 22:10                       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  9:35                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-21 18:02                           ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-20 12:08                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20 21:53                     ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBDµ Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  8:17                       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-21 18:30                         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-25 10:43                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-30 10:40                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 18:15                               ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-11-03 14:30                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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