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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Hani Benhabiles <kroosec@gmail.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, mprivozn@redhat.com,
	nbd-general@lists.sf.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	nick@bytemark.co.uk, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBD
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:33:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141018063322.GC1349@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141017220323.GC31287@grep.be>

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:03:23AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> (added rjones from nbdkit fame -- hi there)

[I'm happy to implement whatever you come up with, but I've added
Florian Weimer to CC who is part of Red Hat's product security group]

> So I think the following would make sense to allow TLS in NBD.
> 
> This would extend the newstyle negotiation by adding two options (i.e.,
> client requests), one server reply, and one server error as well as
> extend one existing reply, in the following manner:
> 
> - The two new commands are NBD_OPT_PEEK_EXPORT and NBD_OPT_STARTTLS. The
>   former would be used to verify if the server will do TLS for a given
>   export:
> 
>   C: NBD_OPT_PEEK_EXPORT
>   S: NBD_REP_SERVER, with an extra field after the export name
>      containing flags that describe the export (R/O vs R/W state,
>      whether TLS is allowed and/or required).
>   
>   If the server indicates that TLS is allowed, the client may now issue
>   NBD_OPT_STARTTLS:
> 
>   C: NBD_OPT_STARTTLS
>   S: NBD_REP_STARTTLS # or NBD_REP_ERR_POLICY, if unwilling
>   C: <initiate TLS handshake>
> 
>   Once the TLS handshake has completed, negotiation should continue over
>   the secure channel. The client should initiate that by sending an
>   NBD_OPT_* message.
> 
> - The server may reply to any and all negotiation request with
>   NBD_REP_ERR_TLS_REQD if it does not want to do anything without TLS.
>   However, if at least one export is supported without encryption, the
>   server must not in any case use this reply.
> 
> There is no command to "exit" TLS again. I don't think that makes sense,
> but I could be persuaded otherwise with sound technical arguments.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> (full spec (with numbers etc) exists as an (uncommitted) diff to
> doc/proto.txt on my laptop, ...)
> 
> -- 
> It is easy to love a country that is famous for chocolate and beer
> 
>   -- Barack Obama, speaking in Brussels, Belgium, 2014-03-26



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-18  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-03 16:44 [Qemu-devel] NBD TLS support in QEMU Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 14:19 ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 14:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-04 15:04     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-04 15:45       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 15:54     ` John Snow
2014-09-04 22:07   ` [Qemu-devel] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-04 22:54     ` Benoît Canet
2014-09-05  8:42       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:15       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-04 22:02 ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05  8:13   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:34     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-09-05 12:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05  6:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-09-05  8:10   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-09-05  8:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hani Benhabiles
2014-09-05 12:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-09-05 13:26   ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-01 20:23     ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-02 11:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 13:50         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-08 18:16           ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-09 12:42             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-02 11:05       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-02 11:28         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-17 22:03           ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBD Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-18  6:33             ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2014-10-20  7:58               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20  9:56                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-20 11:51                   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-20 11:56                     ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-20 12:48                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-10-20 22:10                       ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  9:35                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-21 18:02                           ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-20 12:08                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-10-20 21:53                     ` [Qemu-devel] spec, RFC: TLS support for NBDµ Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-21  8:17                       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-21 18:30                         ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-25 10:43                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2014-10-30 10:40                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 18:15                               ` Wouter Verhelst
2014-11-03 14:30                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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