From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: thuth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
kraxel@redhat.com, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/11] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:18:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141023091816.GB6287@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5448A3B9.4050400@siemens.com>
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 08:44:09AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2014-10-22 22:34, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-10-22 at 16:17 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> I thought about this again, and I'm not sure anymore if we can use
> >> ACPI
> >> to "black-list" the incompatible virtio devices. Reason: hotplug. To
> >> my
> >> understanding, the ACPI DRHD tables won't change during runtime when a
> >> device shows up or disappears. We would have to isolate virtio devices
> >> from the rest of the system by using separate buses for it (and avoid
> >> listing those in any DRHD table) and enforce that they only get
> >> plugged
> >> into those buses. I suppose that is not desirable.
> >>
> >> Maybe it's better to fix virtio /wrt IOMMUs.
> >
> > I always go back to my initial proposal which is to define that current
> > virtio always bypass any iommu (which is what it does really) and have
> > it expose via a new capability if that isn't the case. That means fixing
> > that Xen thingy to allow qemu to know what to expose I assume but that
> > seems to be the less bad approach.
>
> Just one thing to consider: feature negotiation happens after guest
> startup. If we run a virtio device under IOMMU control, what will we
> have to do when the guest says it does not support such devices? Simply
> reject operation?
>
> Jan
We could restrict this to the new set of device IDs that
got introduced in virtio 1.0.
That actually has a mechanism for devices to gracefully
reject a combination of features if we still need it.
> --
> Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RTC ITP SES-DE
> Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-23 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-07 14:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/11] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 01/11] linux-headers/virtio_config: Update with VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 02/11] virtio: cull virtio_bus_set_vdev_features Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 03/11] virtio: support more feature bits Cornelia Huck
2014-10-13 5:53 ` Rusty Russell
2014-10-13 10:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 04/11] s390x/virtio-ccw: fix check for WRITE_FEAT Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 05/11] virtio: introduce legacy virtio devices Cornelia Huck
2014-10-28 15:40 ` Greg Kurz
2014-10-30 18:02 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-30 22:29 ` Greg Kurz
2014-11-03 11:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 06/11] virtio: allow virtio-1 queue layout Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/11] dataplane: allow virtio-1 devices Cornelia Huck
2014-10-28 15:22 ` Greg Kurz
2014-10-30 9:18 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 08/11] s390x/css: Add a callback for when subchannel gets disabled Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 09/11] s390x/virtio-ccw: add virtio set-revision call Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 10/11] s390x/virtio-ccw: support virtio-1 set_vq format Cornelia Huck
2014-10-07 14:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 11/11] s390x/virtio-ccw: enable virtio 1.0 Cornelia Huck
2014-10-08 1:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/11] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-08 9:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-22 8:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-22 14:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2014-10-22 14:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-22 20:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-10-23 6:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2014-10-23 9:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-10-23 7:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-23 21:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-24 8:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-24 12:37 ` Cornelia Huck
2014-10-24 14:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-24 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-28 4:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-30 16:52 ` Cornelia Huck
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