From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
jcody@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/2] block: Warn on insecure format probing
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:24:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141030092415.GA30746@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fzi53jl.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:07:26AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:54:32PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > Am 28.10.2014 um 17:03 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> >> > Instead, let me try once more to sell my old proposal [1] from the
> >> > thread you mentioned:
> >> >
> >> >> What if we let the raw driver know that it was probed and then it
> >> >> enables a check that returns -EIO for any write on the first 2k if that
> >> >> write would make the image look like a different format?
> >> >
> >> > Attacks the problem where it arises instead of trying to detect the
> >> > outcome of it, and works in whatever way it is nested in the BDS graph
> >> > and whatever way is used to address the image file.
> >
> > I think this is too clever. It's another thing to debug if a guest
> > starts hitting EIO.
> >
> > My opinion on probing is: it's ugly but let's leave it for QEMU 3.0 at
> > which point we implement Markus solution with exit(1).
>
> I regard my patch as a necessary preliminary step for that. Warn now,
> change behavior a couple of releases later. When exactly is debatable.
>
> > In the meantime the CVE has been known for a long time so vulnerable
> > users (VM hosting, cloud, etc) have the information they need. Many are
> > automatically protected by libvirt.
>
> The warning hopefully helps libvirt developers with keeping libvirt
> users fully protected.
I'm happy with this approach (haven't reviewed the patches in detail
yet).
Stefan
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-28 16:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/2] block: Warn on insecure format probing Markus Armbruster
2014-10-28 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/2] block: Factor bdrv_probe_all() out of find_image_format() Markus Armbruster
2014-10-28 16:34 ` Eric Blake
2014-10-28 16:41 ` Jeff Cody
2014-10-29 15:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-28 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/2] block: Warn on insecure format probing Markus Armbruster
2014-10-28 17:02 ` Eric Blake
2014-10-28 18:29 ` Jeff Cody
2014-10-28 18:56 ` Eric Blake
2014-10-28 19:42 ` Jeff Cody
2014-10-29 7:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-29 8:25 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-29 7:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-30 13:58 ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-03 8:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-29 7:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-28 18:33 ` Jeff Cody
2014-10-29 6:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-30 13:52 ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-03 8:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-29 1:16 ` Fam Zheng
2014-10-29 6:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-29 10:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-10-29 13:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-29 15:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-30 9:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-30 9:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2014-10-30 12:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-30 9:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-10-30 12:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-10-31 11:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 22:45 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-03 8:15 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-03 11:13 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-04 9:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-04 10:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-05 7:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-03 11:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-04 9:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-04 16:09 ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-05 8:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05 8:09 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-30 9:08 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-30 9:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-30 9:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-10-31 11:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-10-31 11:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-03 8:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-03 9:11 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-04 9:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-03 10:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-03 15:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-11-03 15:13 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-04 9:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-04 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-04 15:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-11-04 15:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-05 8:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05 10:18 ` Eric Blake
2014-10-30 13:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-03 8:44 ` Max Reitz
2014-10-30 20:45 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-11-03 8:18 ` Markus Armbruster
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