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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:36:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141119133659.GA27488@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874mtvo45n.fsf@elfo.elfo>

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:50:28AM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:16:57AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> 
> >> Since migration doesn't transport configuration, we require a compatibly
> >> configured target, and that includes identical memory sizes.  RAM size
> >> is explicit and the user's problem.  ROM size is generally implicit, and
> >> we use machine type compatibility machinery to keep it fixed.  BIOS
> >> changes can break migration only when we screw up or forget the
> >> compatibility machinery.  Same as for lots of other stuff.  No big deal,
> >> really, just a consequence of not migrating configuration.
> >
> > You don't get to maintain it, so it's no big deal for you.
> >
> > I see pain every single release and code is becoming spaghetty-like very
> > quickly.  We thought it would work. It does not.  We do need a solution.
> >
> > And the pain is completely self-inflicted: we already migrate
> > all necessary information!
> > It's just a question of adjusting our datastructures to it.
> 
> migration from version foo to version bar.
> 
> You have two options here:
> 
> - You make source (foo) send the data on the format/sizes that destination
>   (bar) wants.
> - You make destination (bar) handle whatever source (foo) sends.
> 
> You need to put the "spagueti code" in foo or bar.  It needs to be in
> one of the two places, because if that code was not needed, we would not
> be discussion here,  see?
> 
> So, what we are discussing is where is better to put this code.  Emit
> the code that destination expects, or make destination handle whatever
> is sent.  Amound of mangling need to be basically the same.
> 
> Later, Juan.

This is not what the patch does at all.  There is no special-casing
depending on machine type anywhere. Please review the code and respond
to actual patches.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-19 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 20:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] cpu: add cpu_physical_memory_clear_dirty_range_nocode Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  9:10   ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-18  6:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-18  7:49     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  9:19       ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19  9:33         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:11           ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 10:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:45               ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:28                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:44                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:57                     ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:13                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:26                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:28                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:59                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 15:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:53                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22                         ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:20                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:39                         ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:56                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:27                     ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-11-19 17:01                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20  8:12                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-20 10:00                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:49                   ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:51                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:03                       ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:11                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:16                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:28                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:20                           ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:43                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:16           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 10:30             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:50               ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-11-19 13:51                   ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:46                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:45                       ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 18:28                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 13:35               ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-20 14:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-24 13:48                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:58   ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:07     ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:10       ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:18         ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:08           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-11-19 14:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:21           ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:50           ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] arch_init: support resizing on incoming migration Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] memory: interface to allocate device ram Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:21   ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-18 11:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] acpi-build: make ROMs device RAM, make them resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  7:29   ` Amit Shah
2014-11-18 14:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-18 15:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  8:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 13:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  7:31 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19  8:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19  8:22     ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19 13:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52         ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52   ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:40       ` Juan Quintela

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