From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
dgilbert@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:36:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141119133659.GA27488@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874mtvo45n.fsf@elfo.elfo>
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:50:28AM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:16:57AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>
>
> >> Since migration doesn't transport configuration, we require a compatibly
> >> configured target, and that includes identical memory sizes. RAM size
> >> is explicit and the user's problem. ROM size is generally implicit, and
> >> we use machine type compatibility machinery to keep it fixed. BIOS
> >> changes can break migration only when we screw up or forget the
> >> compatibility machinery. Same as for lots of other stuff. No big deal,
> >> really, just a consequence of not migrating configuration.
> >
> > You don't get to maintain it, so it's no big deal for you.
> >
> > I see pain every single release and code is becoming spaghetty-like very
> > quickly. We thought it would work. It does not. We do need a solution.
> >
> > And the pain is completely self-inflicted: we already migrate
> > all necessary information!
> > It's just a question of adjusting our datastructures to it.
>
> migration from version foo to version bar.
>
> You have two options here:
>
> - You make source (foo) send the data on the format/sizes that destination
> (bar) wants.
> - You make destination (bar) handle whatever source (foo) sends.
>
> You need to put the "spagueti code" in foo or bar. It needs to be in
> one of the two places, because if that code was not needed, we would not
> be discussion here, see?
>
> So, what we are discussing is where is better to put this code. Emit
> the code that destination expects, or make destination handle whatever
> is sent. Amound of mangling need to be basically the same.
>
> Later, Juan.
This is not what the patch does at all. There is no special-casing
depending on machine type anywhere. Please review the code and respond
to actual patches.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-19 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-17 20:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] cpu: add cpu_physical_memory_clear_dirty_range_nocode Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 9:10 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-18 6:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-18 7:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 9:19 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:11 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:45 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:57 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:39 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:27 ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-11-19 17:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 8:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-20 10:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:49 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:03 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:20 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 10:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-11-19 13:51 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:45 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 18:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 13:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-20 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-24 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:58 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:07 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:10 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:18 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-11-19 14:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:21 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:50 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] arch_init: support resizing on incoming migration Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] memory: interface to allocate device ram Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:21 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-18 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] acpi-build: make ROMs device RAM, make them resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 7:29 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-18 14:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-18 15:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 8:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 7:31 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19 8:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 8:22 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19 13:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:40 ` Juan Quintela
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