From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:16:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141119141603.GD2355@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546CA4F5.2080202@redhat.com>
* Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
>
>
> On 19/11/2014 15:03, Juan Quintela wrote:
> > Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> On 19/11/2014 14:49, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >>>>> Real hardware lets users update firmware and so should virtual hardware.
> >>> But you can hibernate your laptop, update the firmware, and reboot?
> >>> Where the change can be anyting, like moving from traditional BIOS to
> >>> UEFI?
> >>
> >> Wait wait wait. I totally cannot follow. What would be the equivalent
> >> in QEMU?
> >
> > qemu-2.0 -M pc-2.0
> >
> > migrate to disk/s3/s4
> >
> > upgrade qemu
> >
> > qemu-2.2 -M pc-2.0
> >
> > try interesting variation of s3/s4/migration to disk. Migration to disk
> > should work (we migrate BIOS ROM blocks, enphasis on ROM), s3 perhaps
> > (machine needs to be saved to disk), s4 ..... depends how it ends being
> > done.
>
> Ok, got it. S3 + migrate to disk should work.
>
> S4 probably would work, but I think it would work on a real system too
> as long as you update software and not hardware (e.g. changing the
> motherboard would change the MAC address of the on-board NIC, for example).
>
> Consider the similar case on real hardware:
>
> boot
> update microcode RPM
> s4
> turn on
>
> CPU microcode is installed early by the kernel, before looking for a
> hibernation image to resume from, so the CPU microcode after resume from
> S4 is different from the microcode at the time you suspended to disk.
> This probably would work.
You mean, unless for example, someone had disabled a CPU feature in the
new microcode?
Dave
>
> Paolo
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-19 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-17 20:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] cpu: add cpu_physical_memory_clear_dirty_range_nocode Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 9:10 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] exec: qemu_ram_alloc_device, qemu_ram_resize Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-18 6:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-18 7:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 9:19 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:11 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:45 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:57 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 14:22 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:39 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 16:27 ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-11-19 17:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 8:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-20 10:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:49 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:03 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2014-11-19 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:20 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 10:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 13:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:51 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:45 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 18:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 13:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-20 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-24 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 13:58 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:07 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 14:10 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:18 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-11-19 14:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 14:21 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:50 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 15:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] arch_init: support resizing on incoming migration Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] memory: interface to allocate device ram Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:21 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-18 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] acpi-build: make ROMs device RAM, make them resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-17 20:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] pc: make ROMs resizeable Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 7:29 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-18 14:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-18 15:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 8:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-19 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 7:31 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19 8:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 8:22 ` Amit Shah
2014-11-19 13:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52 ` Juan Quintela
2014-11-19 16:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 13:52 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-19 14:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-19 15:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-19 16:40 ` Juan Quintela
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