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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andrey Korolyov <andrey@xdel.ru>
Cc: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:28:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141127122814.GA13476@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABYiri-m4is-JUvesh0SWd_7Ojxh_Ws5JpHpVyj3oBjPuu1w7A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:50:11PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote:
> > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
> >
> > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
> >
> > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> > killer to run.
> >
> > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> > is set on the device. It is off by default.
> >
> > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
> > linux-next at the moment)
> >
> >   commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
> >   Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> >   Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
> >
> > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

...

> Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This
> behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m
> afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a
> balloon deflation.

That's really a question about guest drivers though, isn't it?
So you aren't responding to correct patches, and aren't copying
the correct people.

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-27 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 11:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] balloon: call qdev_alias_all_properties for proxy dev in balloon class init Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:50   ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 12:26     ` Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 12:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-11-27 14:00       ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 21:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 22:13           ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 12:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 12:34     ` Denis V. Lunev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-27  6:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-27  6:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2015-04-01  9:44   ` James Bottomley
2015-04-01  9:50     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-01  9:51       ` James Bottomley
2015-04-01 10:18         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-04  9:47           ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-06-08 14:54             ` James Bottomley
2015-06-08 15:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-02-26 17:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-26 17:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-26 20:39   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-27 12:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 10:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 10:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 11:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 11:04     ` Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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