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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: thuth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 00/16] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:18:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141127161825.GA27124@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141127170651.67f918e2.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 05:06:51PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:42:11 +0200
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 04:31:39PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:24:22 +0200
> > > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 04:16:33PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > > > Yet another version of the virtio-1 support patches.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This one has seen some (very) light testing with the virtio-1 guest
> > > > > support patches currently on vhost-next.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Changes from v3:
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Add support for FEATURES_OK. We refuse to set features after the
> > > > >   driver has set this in the status field, and we allow to fail
> > > > >   setting the status if the features are inconsistent.
> > > > > - Add missing virtio-1 changes for virtio-net (header size and mac).
> > > > > - Dropped setting the VERSION_1 bit for virtio-blk: There's still
> > > > >   some stuff missing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For virtio-blk, we need to validate the feature bits if version 1 is
> > > > > negotiated: some legacy features are not allowed in that case. I'm not
> > > > > quite sure how to handle this, though. We could use the new
> > > > > validate_features callback to verify that the driver negotiated a
> > > > > sensible feature set, but that would require us to offer a superset
> > > > > of legacy and version 1 bits, which feels wrong. Any ideas?
> > > > 
> > > > No, that's violating the spec.
> > > > I think the simplest way is to have separate features and
> > > > legacy_features fields.  Present the correct one depending on which
> > > > revision was negotiated.
> > > 
> > > But revisions are a virtio-ccw only thing - what can other transports
> > > do here?
> > 
> > Other transports have different ways to deal with this.
> > For example virtio pci exposes a legacy header and
> > a modern header. Legacy header will expose old features,
> > modern one - new features.
> > 
> > mmio simply does not support transitional devices.
> > So qemu user will have to specify virtio 1.0 or 0.9 for mmio.
> > 
> > Other transports are out of virtio 1.0 spec so
> > they just use legacy features.
> > 
> > > The basic problem is that we decide via a feature bit that
> > > needs to be negotiated which feature bits we want to present.
> > 
> > Consider wce as one example.  This is not needed for modern guests, so
> > we can just mask it from modern feature mask.  Consider virtio blk scsi
> > commands as another example.  this feature is not supported in virtio
> > 1.0, so we must mask it from modern feature mask.
> > 
> > Seems the same handling works in all cases?
> 
> This was just what I was talking about...
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > pci and
> > > mmio don't have a way to know whether the driver wants to use 1.0 or
> > > legacy prior to feature negotiation, do they?
> > 
> > pci does. mmio doesn't but it does not want to support transitional
> > devices.
> > 
> 
> So we should have a per-device callback into the transport layer, say
> check_legacy()?

I would just have 2 masks: legacy_features and features.

> For ccw, this would check for the negotiated revision; for mmio, it
> could check a device property configured with the device; and for pci,
> whatever the mechanism is there :)
> 
> A transport not implementing this callback is simply considered
> legacy-only.

I dislike callbacks. Let's just give all info to core,
and have it DTRT.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-27 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 15:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 00/16] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 01/16] linux-headers/virtio_config: Update with VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 02/16] virtio: cull virtio_bus_set_vdev_features Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 03/16] virtio: support more feature bits Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 15:40     ` Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 04/16] s390x/virtio-ccw: fix check for WRITE_FEAT Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 05/16] virtio: introduce legacy virtio devices Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 06/16] virtio: allow virtio-1 queue layout Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 07/16] dataplane: allow virtio-1 devices Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 08/16] s390x/css: Add a callback for when subchannel gets disabled Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 09/16] s390x/virtio-ccw: add virtio set-revision call Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 10/16] s390x/virtio-ccw: support virtio-1 set_vq format Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 11/16] virtio: disallow late feature changes for virtio-1 Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 12/16] virtio: allow to fail setting status Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 13/16] s390x/virtio-ccw: enable virtio 1.0 Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 14/16] virtio-net: no writeable mac for virtio-1 Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 15/16] virtio-net: support longer header Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 16/16] virtio-net: enable virtio 1.0 Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v4 00/16] qemu: towards virtio-1 host support Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 15:31   ` Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 15:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 16:06       ` Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 16:18         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2014-11-27 16:28           ` Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 16:35             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-28  9:47               ` Cornelia Huck
2014-11-27 16:38             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-28  9:50               ` Cornelia Huck
2015-02-25  4:20 ` [Qemu-devel] Qemu and virtio 1.0 Rusty Russell
2015-02-25 11:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-03-02 11:43   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-03-02 12:00     ` Cornelia Huck

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