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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dgilbert@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/4] pc: append ssdt-misc.dsl to the DSDT
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:33:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150119193347.GA8644@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150119192957.GA8544@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:29:57PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 06:26:55PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 19/01/2015 18:14, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > I'm fine with moving "SMC out of the per-machine-type AML", should be
> > > a separate patch anyway. But patch-able SMC being in DSDT is our mistake
> > > that we allowed it to slip there and should be better moved to SSDT rather
> > > than staying in DSDT and making thing more complex.
> > > It's also candidate for trimming, i.e. dropping it from tables altogether
> > > if device is not present in QEMU, same applies to _S[34] Packages when
> > > respective features are disabled and to PEVT device template.
> > 
> > Yes, trimming is better than putting it in the DSDT, at least for simple
> > devices such as SMC and pvpanic.
> > 
> > >> > 
> > >>>> > >> simpler.  However, it also complicates backwards compatibility, so
> > >>>> > >> merge it with the DSDT.
> > >>> > > What are these complications?
> > >> > 
> > >> > The complication arises if we want to make the SSDT exactly the same for
> > >> > all QEMU versions, given a (machine type, command line) pair.  Then you
> > >> > either cannot do any change to ssdt-misc, or you have to keep different
> > >> > copies for each machine type.
> > > With resizable ROM blobs in master, there shouldn't be an issue with
> > > migration in new QEMU versions if size of SSDT changes.
> > 
> > There is only a very small issue that remains (the RSDP pointer is wrong
> > if the size changes),
> 
> Yes - for new machine types I'll send a patch to put it
> in memory.
> For old ones - there's a race, and it's painful to fix.  If we do want
> to try fixing it, one solution is to fail migration if attempted before
> rsdp is shadowed. Useful?
> 
> > so we probably should apply anyway the patch of
> > mine that allows the DSDT size to change; and we probably should pay
> > attention to SSDT, and version it.

Oh, missed that.
You mean this: "Add padding after the DSDT"?
Right but e.g. Igor's patches likely move RSDT anyway, no?

> > ("Let's just ignore the SSDT" was exactly what I feared when I disagreed
> > with putting in resizable ROM blobs first.  But now that it's in, I
> > cannot really argue otherwise).
> 
> I don't have a strong opinion here. you guys arrive
> at a rough consensus.:w
> 
> 
> > > So question is if we still need SSDT version-ing and per machine type
> > > SSDT compatibility? /it's better not to do version-ing at all if it could
> > > be avoided, due to maintenance headache it brings along/
> > 
> > I'm okay with re-evaluating that after your patches go in.
> > 
> > Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-24 16:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/4] acpi: move common parts of the SSDT to the DSDT (and preview of things to come) Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/4] pc: append ssdt-misc.dsl to the DSDT Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 15:15   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-01-19 15:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 17:14       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-01-19 17:26         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 19:29           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-01-19 19:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-01-19 19:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 21:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-01-20  9:59             ` Igor Mammedov
2015-01-20 10:34               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-20 10:35               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-01-20 12:41                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-01-20 12:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-01-19 15:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/4] pc: rename ssdt-misc to dsdt-common Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/4] pc: move common parts of the DSDT " Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/4] pc: merge DSDT common parts into acpi-dsdt-common.dsl Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 15:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-01-19 15:33     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 15:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/4] pc: introduce new ACPI table sizing algorithm Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 15:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/4] pc: clean up pre-2.1 compatibility code Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-24 16:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/4] pc: go back to smaller ACPI tables Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-19 15:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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