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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:00:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150120140023.GB25265@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BE5CE0.4080207@redhat.com>

Am 20.01.2015 um 14:49 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> On 2015-01-20 at 05:09, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >Am 19.01.2015 um 22:09 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> >>On 2015-01-19 at 16:04, Eric Blake wrote:
> >>>On 01/19/2015 01:49 PM, Max Reitz wrote:
> >>>>With the series adding unalignment checks and the series reworking the
> >>>>zero cluster expansion code overlapping, the unalignment checks have not
> >>>>been implemented in the latter code.
> >>>>
> >>>>This series fixes it.
> >>>>
> >>>>There are other places which would require unalignment checks, like the
> >>>>offsets of L1 tables, especially for snapshots; but because it would be
> >>>>best to add these checks in the function which reads the snapshot table,
> >>>>this would make images with broken snapshots completely unusable, which
> >>>>is something I opted to avoid for now.
> >That's something I noticed, too: For qemu-img check, our qcow2_open()
> >checks may be to strict. With a corrupted snapshot table, it won't even
> >run. Perhaps we should be laxer with some checks with BDRV_O_CHECK, and
> >for example just set s->nb_snapshots = 0 if loading the table fails.
> >
> >>>>Ideally, we need to make the qcow2 repair function repair such cases,
> >>>>but until that is done there is not much we can do about them.
> >>>What's the best repair?
> >>That's what I was asking myself...
> >>
> >>>Read the data from the unaligned location, and
> >>>write a fresh copy into a new aligned allocation?
> >>Maybe. Maybe there is no way of repairing them and the only way is
> >>asking the user whether it's fine to delete the snapshot (qemu-img
> >>check -r make_consistent_whatever_it_takes).
> >>
> >>Also, the question remains for every unaligned data structure: L2
> >>tables, data clusters… The refcount structures are the only ones
> >>that can be easily recovered. For data clusters, reading from the
> >>unaligned location would probably be best; for L2 tables… maybe the
> >>same, then run a consistency check on the data and if it seems off™,
> >>throw the whole L2 table away.
> >Reading from the unaligned location doesn't help. I have never seen an
> >image whose L2 entries contained valid entries, except for the least
> >significant few bits. If your table is corrupted, it's usually garbage
> >from start to end.
> 
> Probably so.
> 
> >I think the only sane option is to drop the entries. The big question
> >is what should be used to replace them.
> 
> /dev/random of course. There is a chance we are correct…
> 
> Seriously speaking, well, unmap them? Zero clusters don't feel right to me.

Actually, I have a feeling that zero clusters are better because they
are obviously wrong when you debug a problem in the guest. Falling back
to the backing file may result in patterns that don't look obviously
corrupted, or even expose information to users that shouldn't have
permission to read it.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-20 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-19 20:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks Max Reitz
2015-01-19 20:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] " Max Reitz
2015-01-19 20:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] iotests: Add tests for more corruption cases Max Reitz
2015-01-19 21:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks Eric Blake
2015-01-19 21:09   ` Max Reitz
2015-01-20 10:09     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-20 13:49       ` Max Reitz
2015-01-20 14:00         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2015-01-20 14:01           ` Max Reitz
2015-01-22 18:04 ` Kevin Wolf

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