From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com, yamahata@private.email.ne.jp,
quintela@redhat.com, cristian.klein@cs.umu.se,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, amit.shah@redhat.com,
yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 43/47] Host page!=target page: Cleanup bitmaps
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:50:55 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150127045055.GC19081@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141217182131.GF31071@work-vm>
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 06:21:34PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 06:47:49PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
> > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > Prior to the start of postcopy, ensure that everything that will
> > > be transferred later is a whole host-page in size.
> > >
> > > This is accomplished by discarding partially transferred host pages
> > > and marking any that are partially dirty as fully dirty.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > arch_init.c | 112 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 111 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch_init.c b/arch_init.c
> > > index 1fe4fab..aac250c 100644
> > > --- a/arch_init.c
> > > +++ b/arch_init.c
> > > @@ -1024,7 +1024,6 @@ static uint32_t get_32bits_map(unsigned long *map, int64_t start)
> > > * A helper to put 32 bits into a bit map; trivial for HOST_LONG_BITS=32
> > > * messier for 64; the bitmaps are actually long's that are 32 or 64bit
> > > */
> > > -__attribute__ (( unused )) /* Until later in patch series */
> > > static void put_32bits_map(unsigned long *map, int64_t start,
> > > uint32_t v)
> > > {
> > > @@ -1153,15 +1152,126 @@ static int pc_each_ram_discard(MigrationState *ms)
> > > }
> > >
> > > /*
> > > + * Utility for the outgoing postcopy code.
> > > + *
> > > + * Discard any partially sent host-page size chunks, mark any partially
> > > + * dirty host-page size chunks as all dirty.
> > > + *
> > > + * Returns: 0 on success
> > > + */
> > > +static int postcopy_chunk_hostpages(MigrationState *ms)
> > > +{
> > > + struct RAMBlock *block;
> > > + unsigned int host_bits = sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) / TARGET_PAGE_SIZE;
> > > + uint32_t host_mask;
> > > +
> > > + /* Should be a power of 2 */
> > > + assert(host_bits && !(host_bits & (host_bits - 1)));
> > > + /*
> > > + * If the host_bits isn't a division of 32 (the minimum long size)
> > > + * then the code gets a lot more complex; disallow for now
> > > + * (I'm not aware of a system where it's true anyway)
> > > + */
> > > + assert((32 % host_bits) == 0);
> >
> > This assert makes the first one redundant.
>
> True I guess, removed the power of 2 check.
>
> <snip>
>
> > > +/*
> > > * Transmit the set of pages to be discarded after precopy to the target
> > > * these are pages that have been sent previously but have been dirtied
> > > * Hopefully this is pretty sparse
> > > */
> > > int ram_postcopy_send_discard_bitmap(MigrationState *ms)
> > > {
> > > + int ret;
> > > +
> > > /* This should be our last sync, the src is now paused */
> > > migration_bitmap_sync();
> > >
> > > + /* Deal with TPS != HPS */
> > > + ret = postcopy_chunk_hostpages(ms);
> > > + if (ret) {
> > > + return ret;
> > > + }
> >
> > This really seems like a bogus thing to be doing on the outgoing
> > migration side. Doesn't the host page size constraint come from the
> > destination (due to the need to atomically instate pages). Source
> > host page size == destination host page size doesn't seem like it
> > should be an inherent constraint
>
> It's not an inherent constraint; it just makes life messier. I had
> some code to deal with it but it complicates things even more, and
> I've not got anything to test that rare case with; if someone is
> desperate for it then it can be added.
So, I'm all for deferring implementation improvements that we don't
need for the time being.
What worries me though, is having the source have to make assumptions
about how the migration stream will be processed on the destination
that aren't somehow baked into the protocol itself. i.e. I think we
should really try to avoid the possibility of migration streams that
are structurally sound, and look like they should be valid, but
aren't, because of subtle constraints in the order and manner in which
the destination needs to process the individual chunks.
> > and it's not clear why you can't do
> > this rounding out to host page sized chunks on the receive end.
>
> The source keeps track of which pages still need sending, and so
> has to update that list when it tells the destination to perform
> a discard.
Ah.
> If the destination discards more than the source told it to (for
> example because it has bigger host-pages) the source would need
> to update it's map of the pages that still need sending.
I'm beginning to wonder if what we really need is for early in the
migration process the destination to tell the host what granularity of
updates it can handle (based on its page size).
Perhaps the short summary is that I don't think we need to actually
handle the case of different source and dest host page sizes. BUT,
if that does happen the migration process should be able to detect
that that's what's gone wrong and print a meaningful error, rather
than having the destination blow up part way through and deep the code
because chunk constraints necessary for the dest host page size
haven't been met by the source.
--
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2014-10-03 17:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/47] Postcopy implementation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/47] QEMUSizedBuffer based QEMUFile Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08 2:10 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-03 0:53 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/47] Tests: QEMUSizedBuffer/QEMUBuffer Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 1:02 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/47] Start documenting how postcopy works Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 1:31 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/47] qemu_ram_foreach_block: pass up error value, and down the ramblock name Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 2:34 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/47] improve DPRINTF macros, add to savevm Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 2:35 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/47] Add qemu_get_counted_string to read a string prefixed by a count byte Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 2:39 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 16:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/47] Create MigrationIncomingState Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 2:45 ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 19:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/47] socket shutdown Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/47] Provide runtime Target page information Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/47] Return path: Open a return path on QEMUFile for sockets Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:05 ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 19:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18 4:34 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/47] Return path: socket_writev_buffer: Block even on non-blocking fd's Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:10 ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 18:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18 3:54 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/47] Handle bi-directional communication for fd migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:12 ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 13:53 ` Cristian Klein
2014-11-18 3:53 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/47] Migration commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:14 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/47] Return path: Control commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 16:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-23 20:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03 3:20 ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 18:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 15/47] Return path: Send responses from destination to source Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:22 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 16/47] Return path: Source handling of return path Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 18:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-24 10:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-16 8:26 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-16 8:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-16 9:09 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-03 3:47 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 15:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-03 3:46 ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 13:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18 3:52 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:12 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 17/47] qemu_loadvm errors and debug Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:49 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 18/47] ram_debug_dump_bitmap: Dump a migration bitmap as text Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 3:58 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 19/47] Rework loadvm path for subloops Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 8:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 10:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-03 5:08 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21 6:53 ` David Gibson
2014-12-11 14:47 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 20/47] Add migration-capability boolean for postcopy-ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-06 18:59 ` Eric Blake
2014-10-06 19:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 21/47] Add wrappers and handlers for sending/receiving the postcopy-ram migration messages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03 5:51 ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 14:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 22/47] QEMU_VM_CMD_PACKAGED: Send a packaged chunk of migration stream Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 1:28 ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 10:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18 4:36 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 23/47] migrate_init: Call from savevm Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08 2:28 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-04 1:29 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 24/47] Allow savevm handlers to state whether they could go into postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 1:33 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21 6:58 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 19:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 25/47] postcopy: OS support test Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 1:40 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 17:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 26/47] migrate_start_postcopy: Command to trigger transition to postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 1:47 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 27/47] MIG_STATE_POSTCOPY_ACTIVE: Add new migration state Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 1:49 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 28/47] qemu_savevm_state_complete: Postcopy changes Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 2:18 ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 16:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/47] Postcopy page-map-incoming (PMI) structure Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04 3:09 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 30/47] Postcopy: Maintain sentmap and calculate discard Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-05 6:38 ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 16:48 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 31/47] postcopy: Incoming initialisation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-05 6:47 ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 17:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 32/47] postcopy: ram_enable_notify to switch on userfault Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-06 19:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-05 6:49 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:17 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 33/47] Postcopy: Postcopy startup in migration thread Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 11:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21 12:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 12:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-20 17:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-20 17:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-24 18:26 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-10 6:05 ` David Gibson
2015-01-05 16:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 34/47] Postcopy: Create a fault handler thread before marking the ram as userfault Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-10 6:10 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 35/47] Page request: Add MIG_RPCOMM_REQPAGES reverse command Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-10 6:19 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 20:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:48 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 36/47] Page request: Process incoming page request Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08 2:31 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-08 7:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-08 8:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-08 8:10 ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-08 8:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-10 6:31 ` David Gibson
2014-11-17 19:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18 4:38 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 19:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 37/47] Page request: Consume pages off the post-copy queue Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 11:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-11 1:13 ` David Gibson
2015-01-14 20:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27 4:38 ` David Gibson
2015-01-27 9:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-28 5:33 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 38/47] Add assertion to check migration_dirty_pages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-06 18:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-06 20:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-11 1:14 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 39/47] postcopy_ram.c: place_page and helpers Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-11 1:39 ` David Gibson
2015-01-15 18:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 40/47] Postcopy: Use helpers to map pages during migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 2:53 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 18:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 41/47] qemu_ram_block_from_host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 2:59 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 18:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 42/47] Don't sync dirty bitmaps in postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 3:01 ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 16:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 43/47] Host page!=target page: Cleanup bitmaps Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 3:10 ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 18:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27 4:50 ` David Gibson [this message]
2015-01-27 10:04 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-28 5:36 ` David Gibson
2015-01-27 10:20 ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-27 11:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 44/47] Postcopy; Handle userfault requests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 3:23 ` David Gibson
2015-01-05 17:13 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27 4:33 ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 45/47] Start up a postcopy/listener thread ready for incoming page data Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13 3:29 ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 19:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21 8:36 ` David Gibson
2014-11-21 10:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 46/47] postcopy: Wire up loadvm_postcopy_ram_handle_{run, end} commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 17:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 12:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 47/47] End of migration for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 17:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 14:24 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-04 18:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:29 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 19:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/47] Postcopy implementation Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 2:27 ` Cristian Klein
2014-10-07 8:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-08 8:36 ` Cristian Klein
2014-11-21 3:48 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-21 10:14 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-24 8:10 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-21 18:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-24 8:25 ` zhanghailiang
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