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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com, yamahata@private.email.ne.jp,
	quintela@redhat.com, cristian.klein@cs.umu.se,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, amit.shah@redhat.com,
	yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 43/47] Host page!=target page: Cleanup bitmaps
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:04:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150127100430.GB2425@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150127045055.GC19081@voom.fritz.box>

* David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 06:21:34PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 06:47:49PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
> > > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Prior to the start of postcopy, ensure that everything that will
> > > > be transferred later is a whole host-page in size.
> > > > 
> > > > This is accomplished by discarding partially transferred host pages
> > > > and marking any that are partially dirty as fully dirty.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch_init.c | 112 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 111 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch_init.c b/arch_init.c
> > > > index 1fe4fab..aac250c 100644
> > > > --- a/arch_init.c
> > > > +++ b/arch_init.c
> > > > @@ -1024,7 +1024,6 @@ static uint32_t get_32bits_map(unsigned long *map, int64_t start)
> > > >   * A helper to put 32 bits into a bit map; trivial for HOST_LONG_BITS=32
> > > >   * messier for 64; the bitmaps are actually long's that are 32 or 64bit
> > > >   */
> > > > -__attribute__ (( unused )) /* Until later in patch series */
> > > >  static void put_32bits_map(unsigned long *map, int64_t start,
> > > >                             uint32_t v)
> > > >  {
> > > > @@ -1153,15 +1152,126 @@ static int pc_each_ram_discard(MigrationState *ms)
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > >  /*
> > > > + * Utility for the outgoing postcopy code.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * Discard any partially sent host-page size chunks, mark any partially
> > > > + * dirty host-page size chunks as all dirty.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * Returns: 0 on success
> > > > + */
> > > > +static int postcopy_chunk_hostpages(MigrationState *ms)
> > > > +{
> > > > +    struct RAMBlock *block;
> > > > +    unsigned int host_bits = sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) / TARGET_PAGE_SIZE;
> > > > +    uint32_t host_mask;
> > > > +
> > > > +    /* Should be a power of 2 */
> > > > +    assert(host_bits && !(host_bits & (host_bits - 1)));
> > > > +    /*
> > > > +     * If the host_bits isn't a division of 32 (the minimum long size)
> > > > +     * then the code gets a lot more complex; disallow for now
> > > > +     * (I'm not aware of a system where it's true anyway)
> > > > +     */
> > > > +    assert((32 % host_bits) == 0);
> > > 
> > > This assert makes the first one redundant.
> > 
> > True I guess, removed the power of 2 check.
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > > > +/*
> > > >   * Transmit the set of pages to be discarded after precopy to the target
> > > >   * these are pages that have been sent previously but have been dirtied
> > > >   * Hopefully this is pretty sparse
> > > >   */
> > > >  int ram_postcopy_send_discard_bitmap(MigrationState *ms)
> > > >  {
> > > > +    int ret;
> > > > +
> > > >      /* This should be our last sync, the src is now paused */
> > > >      migration_bitmap_sync();
> > > >  
> > > > +    /* Deal with TPS != HPS */
> > > > +    ret = postcopy_chunk_hostpages(ms);
> > > > +    if (ret) {
> > > > +        return ret;
> > > > +    }
> > > 
> > > This really seems like a bogus thing to be doing on the outgoing
> > > migration side.  Doesn't the host page size constraint come from the
> > > destination (due to the need to atomically instate pages).  Source
> > > host page size == destination host page size doesn't seem like it
> > > should be an inherent constraint
> > 
> > It's not an inherent constraint; it just makes life messier. I had
> > some code to deal with it but it complicates things even more, and
> > I've not got anything to test that rare case with; if someone is
> > desperate for it then it can be added.
> 
> So, I'm all for deferring implementation improvements that we don't
> need for the time being.
> 
> What worries me though, is having the source have to make assumptions
> about how the migration stream will be processed on the destination
> that aren't somehow baked into the protocol itself.  i.e. I think we
> should really try to avoid the possibility of migration streams that
> are structurally sound, and look like they should be valid, but
> aren't, because of subtle constraints in the order and manner in which
> the destination needs to process the individual chunks.

Agreed; see below.

> > > and it's not clear why you can't do
> > > this rounding out to host page sized chunks on the receive end.
> > 
> > The source keeps track of which pages still need sending, and so
> > has to update that list when it tells the destination to perform
> > a discard.
> 
> Ah.
> 
> > If the destination discards more than the source told it to (for
> > example because it has bigger host-pages) the source would need
> > to update it's map of the pages that still need sending.
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if what we really need is for early in the
> migration process the destination to tell the host what granularity of
> updates it can handle (based on its page size).
> 
> Perhaps the short summary is that I don't think we need to actually
> handle the case of different source and dest host page sizes.  BUT,
> if that does happen the migration process should be able to detect
> that that's what's gone wrong and print a meaningful error, rather
> than having the destination blow up part way through and deep the code
> because chunk constraints necessary for the dest host page size
> haven't been met by the source.

Right; I cut the problem in the opposite direction and made the source
send the destination its page sizes in the 'advise' message and
the destination validates it and spits a:
   Postcopy needs matching host page sizes (s=%d d=%d)"

(That's in 21/47 Add wrappers and handlers....)
It's just a little easier to do it that way rather than having to
make the source wait for the destination.

Dave

> 
> -- 
> David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
> david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
> 				| _way_ _around_!
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-27 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-03 17:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/47] Postcopy implementation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/47] QEMUSizedBuffer based QEMUFile Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08  2:10   ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-03  0:53   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/47] Tests: QEMUSizedBuffer/QEMUBuffer Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  1:02   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/47] Start documenting how postcopy works Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  1:31   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/47] qemu_ram_foreach_block: pass up error value, and down the ramblock name Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  2:34   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/47] improve DPRINTF macros, add to savevm Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  2:35   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/47] Add qemu_get_counted_string to read a string prefixed by a count byte Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  2:39   ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 16:13     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/47] Create MigrationIncomingState Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  2:45   ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 19:06     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/47] socket shutdown Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:10       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/47] Provide runtime Target page information Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/47] Return path: Open a return path on QEMUFile for sockets Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:05   ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 19:04     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18  4:34       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/47] Return path: socket_writev_buffer: Block even on non-blocking fd's Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:10   ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 18:59     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18  3:54       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/47] Handle bi-directional communication for fd migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:12   ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 13:53     ` Cristian Klein
2014-11-18  3:53       ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:27         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/47] Migration commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:14   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/47] Return path: Control commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 16:23     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-23 20:15       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03  3:20         ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 18:58         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 15/47] Return path: Send responses from destination to source Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:22   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 16/47] Return path: Source handling of return path Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 18:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-24 10:04       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-16  8:26   ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-16  8:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-16  9:09       ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-03  3:47     ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 15:44       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-03  3:46   ` David Gibson
2014-11-03 13:22     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18  3:52       ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:06         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:12           ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 17/47] qemu_loadvm errors and debug Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:49   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 18/47] ram_debug_dump_bitmap: Dump a migration bitmap as text Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  3:58   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 19/47] Rework loadvm path for subloops Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07  8:58     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 10:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:21         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-03  5:08   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:50     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21  6:53       ` David Gibson
2014-12-11 14:47         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 20/47] Add migration-capability boolean for postcopy-ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-06 18:59   ` Eric Blake
2014-10-06 19:07     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 21/47] Add wrappers and handlers for sending/receiving the postcopy-ram migration messages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-03  5:51   ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 14:50     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 22/47] QEMU_VM_CMD_PACKAGED: Send a packaged chunk of migration stream Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  1:28   ` David Gibson
2014-11-04 10:19     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18  4:36       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 23/47] migrate_init: Call from savevm Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08  2:28   ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-04  1:29   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 24/47] Allow savevm handlers to state whether they could go into postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  1:33   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 17:53     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21  6:58       ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 19:58         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 25/47] postcopy: OS support test Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  1:40   ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 17:34     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 26/47] migrate_start_postcopy: Command to trigger transition to postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  1:47   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 27/47] MIG_STATE_POSTCOPY_ACTIVE: Add new migration state Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  1:49   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 28/47] qemu_savevm_state_complete: Postcopy changes Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  2:18   ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 16:14     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 29/47] Postcopy page-map-incoming (PMI) structure Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-04  3:09   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:46     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 30/47] Postcopy: Maintain sentmap and calculate discard Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-05  6:38   ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 16:48     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 31/47] postcopy: Incoming initialisation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-05  6:47   ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 17:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 32/47] postcopy: ram_enable_notify to switch on userfault Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-06 19:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-05  6:49   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:59     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:17       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 33/47] Postcopy: Postcopy startup in migration thread Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 16:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-20 11:45     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21 12:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-21 12:07         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-20 17:12     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-20 17:19       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-24 18:26     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-10  6:05   ` David Gibson
2015-01-05 16:06     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 34/47] Postcopy: Create a fault handler thread before marking the ram as userfault Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-10  6:10   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 18:56     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 35/47] Page request: Add MIG_RPCOMM_REQPAGES reverse command Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-10  6:19   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 20:01     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-19 21:48       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 36/47] Page request: Process incoming page request Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-08  2:31   ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-08  7:49     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-08  8:07       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-08  8:10       ` zhanghailiang
2014-10-08  8:18         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-10  6:31   ` David Gibson
2014-11-17 19:07     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-18  4:38       ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 19:37         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 37/47] Page request: Consume pages off the post-copy queue Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 11:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-11  1:13   ` David Gibson
2015-01-14 20:13     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27  4:38       ` David Gibson
2015-01-27  9:40         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-28  5:33           ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 38/47] Add assertion to check migration_dirty_pages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 18:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-06 18:51     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-06 20:30       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-11  1:14   ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 39/47] postcopy_ram.c: place_page and helpers Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-11  1:39   ` David Gibson
2015-01-15 18:14     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 40/47] Postcopy: Use helpers to map pages during migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  2:53   ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 18:14     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 41/47] qemu_ram_block_from_host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  2:59   ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 18:55     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 42/47] Don't sync dirty bitmaps in postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  3:01   ` David Gibson
2014-11-25 16:25     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 43/47] Host page!=target page: Cleanup bitmaps Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  3:10   ` David Gibson
2014-12-17 18:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27  4:50       ` David Gibson
2015-01-27 10:04         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2015-01-28  5:36           ` David Gibson
2015-01-27 10:20   ` Peter Maydell
2015-01-27 11:50     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 44/47] Postcopy; Handle userfault requests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  3:23   ` David Gibson
2015-01-05 17:13     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-01-27  4:33       ` David Gibson
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 45/47] Start up a postcopy/listener thread ready for incoming page data Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-11-13  3:29   ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 19:40     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-21  8:36       ` David Gibson
2014-11-21 10:17         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 46/47] postcopy: Wire up loadvm_postcopy_ram_handle_{run, end} commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 17:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 12:18     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-03 17:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 47/47] End of migration for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2014-10-04 17:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-23 14:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-04 18:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-07 10:29     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07 11:12       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-03 19:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/47] Postcopy implementation Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-07  2:27   ` Cristian Klein
2014-10-07  8:12     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-10-08  8:36       ` Cristian Klein
2014-11-21  3:48 ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-21 10:14   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-24  8:10     ` zhanghailiang
2014-11-21 18:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-24  8:25     ` zhanghailiang

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