From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:34:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150204143452.GV3032@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54D22B5A.5020904@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 03:23:22PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>
> On 04/02/2015 15:08, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >> > As long as QEMUFile remains there and GIOChannel is used only when
> >> > encryption is required, that would be an acceptable limitation. As I
> >> > wrote above, migration is a bit special anyway.
> > I'm not sure I'd like the idea of having different codepaths for
> > the encrypted vs non-encrypted impl. it seems like a recipe for
> > increased maintainence work and inconsistent behaviour over the
> > long term. My thought was that QEMUFile would basically go
> > away entirely by the end of the conversion, or at most be dealing
> > with the data rate throttling if that didn't fit nicely into the
> > generic IO layer.
>
> QEMUFile has a bunch of hooks for RDMA (they were also used by the
> never-upstreamed patches to speed up AF_UNIX migration with vmsplice),
> so it cannot go away:
>
> typedef struct QEMUFileOps {
> QEMUFilePutBufferFunc *put_buffer;
> QEMUFileGetBufferFunc *get_buffer;
> QEMUFileCloseFunc *close;
> QEMUFileGetFD *get_fd;
> QEMUFileWritevBufferFunc *writev_buffer;
> QEMURamHookFunc *before_ram_iterate;
> QEMURamHookFunc *after_ram_iterate;
> QEMURamHookFunc *hook_ram_load;
> QEMURamSaveFunc *save_page;
> QEMUFileShutdownFunc *shut_down;
> } QEMUFileOps;
>
> GIO doesn't provide writev either, so it's not a good match for
> non-encrypted migration, which really tries hard to do no copies in
> userspace.
Ok, maybe RDMA will still need QEMUFile, but for non-encrypted TCP
I'd hope to be able to achieve zero-copy with the new API too - it
would certainly be my intention/goal.
> > The main difference between GIO's APIs and GIOChannel is that the new
> > GIO stuff is really designed around the idea of asynchronous callbacks
> > for completion of IO.
> >
> > eg
> >
> > g_input_stream_read_async(stream, buffer, size, read_done_callback);
> >
> > and then when read_done_callback gets triggered you have to call
> >
> > g_input_stream_read_finish(stream)
> >
> > in order to get the success/failure status of the read, and the byte
> > count. While it is quite nice for new code IME, this is probably quite
> > alot harder to refit into existing QEMU codebase.
>
> It also supports GIOChannel's GSource model via
> GPollableInputStream/GPollableOutputStream. The GNUTLS bindings support
> that interface too.
>
> It also supports blocking operation, which is what migration wants.
>
> So I think we could take a look at GIO if its TLS support is advanced
> enough for your purposes.
Ok, I'll investigate GIO a little further to see how practical a fit it
is for us.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-04 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-04 11:32 [Qemu-devel] RFC: Universal encryption on QEMU I/O channels Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 12:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 13:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 13:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:34 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2015-02-04 15:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 15:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 15:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 16:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05 14:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-02-05 14:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-02-05 14:45 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 13:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:55 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 16:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 16:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 20:41 ` Peter Maydell
2015-02-04 21:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-05 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-04 13:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-04 14:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 14:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:48 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-02-04 14:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-02-04 18:34 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-05 9:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-04 14:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-04 14:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-06 17:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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