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From: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] vpc: Ignore geometry for large images
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:11:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150210141148.GC19775@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150210135439.GF5202@noname.str.redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 02:54:39PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 10.02.2015 um 14:42 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben:
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 02:34:14PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > Am 10.02.2015 um 12:41 hat Peter Lieven geschrieben:
> > > > Am 09.02.2015 um 17:09 schrieb Kevin Wolf:
> > > > >The CHS calculation as done per the VHD spec imposes a maximum
> > > > >image size of ~127 GB. Real VHD images exist that are larger than
> > > > >that.
> > > > >
> > > > >Apparently there are two separate non-standard ways to achieve
> > > > >this: You could use more heads than the spec does - this is the
> > > > >option that qemu-img create chooses.
> > > > >
> > > > >However, other images exist where the geometry is set to the
> > > > >maximum (65536/16/255), but the actual image size is larger.
> > > > >Until now, such images are truncated at 127 GB when opening them
> > > > >with qemu.
> > > > >
> > > > >This patch changes the vpc driver to ignore geometry in this case
> > > > >and only trust the size field in the header.
> > > > >
> > > > >Signed-off-by: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> ---
> > > > >
> > > > >Peter, I'm replacing some of your code in the hope that the new
> > > > >approach is more generally valid. Of course, I haven't tested if
> > > > >your case with disk2vhd is still covered. Could you check this,
> > > > >please?
> > > > 
> > > > I checked this and found that disk2vhd always sets CHS to 65535ULL
> > > > * 16 * 255 independed of the real size.
> > > > 
> > > > But, as the conversion to CHS may have an error its maybe the best
> > > > solution to ignore CHS completely and always derive total_sectors
> > > > from footer->size unconditionally.
> > > > 
> > > > I had a look at what virtualbox does and they only rely on
> > > > footer->size. If they alter the size or create an image the write
> > > > the new size into the footer and recalculate CHS by the formula
> > > > found in the appendix of the original spec.
> > > > 
> > > > Check vhdCreateImage, vhdOpen in
> > > > http://www.virtualbox.org/svn/vbox/trunk/src/VBox/Storage/VHD.cpp
> > > > 
> > > > The original spec also says that CHS values purpose is the use in
> > > > an ATA controller only.
> > > 
> > > The problem with just using footer->size back then when I
> > > implemented this was that from the perspective of a VirtualPC guest
> > > run in qemu, the size of its hard disk would change, which you don't
> > > want either. Going from VPC to qemu would be ugly, but mostly
> > > harmless as the disk only grows. But if you use an image in qemu
> > > where the disk looks larger and then go back to VPC which respects
> > > geometry, your data may be truncated.
> > 
> > I believe the vpc "creator" field is different if the image was
> > created by Virtual PC, versus created by Hyper-V ("vpc" and "win",
> > respectively, I think).  Perhaps we could use that to infer a guest
> > image came from VirtualPC, and thus not use footer->size in that
> > scenario?
> 
> Right, I think we discussed that before. Do you remember the outcome of
> that discussion? I seem to remember that we had a conclusion, but
> apparently it was never actually implemented.
> 
> Would your proposal be to special-case "vpc" to apply the geometry, and
> everything else (including "win", "d2v" and "qemu") would use the footer
> field?
>

Yes, exactly.  I don't know if that will catch all the edge use case
combinations (an image may have been created by Virtual PC, but
formatted and used as a guest under Hyper-V, etc..).  But it seems
like a reasonable approach that improves the current situation.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-10 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-09 16:09 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] vpc: Ignore geometry for large images Kevin Wolf
2015-02-10 11:41 ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-10 13:34   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-10 13:42     ` Jeff Cody
2015-02-10 13:54       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-10 14:00         ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-10 14:53           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-12  9:23             ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-12  9:58               ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-12 10:02                 ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-12 10:06                   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-12 10:09                     ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-12 10:23                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-02-12 10:30                         ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-12 17:18                         ` Charles Arnold
2015-02-12 19:05                           ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-12 21:01                             ` Charles Arnold
2015-02-18 13:38                               ` Peter Lieven
2015-02-18 14:11                                 ` Eric Blake
2015-02-10 14:11         ` Jeff Cody [this message]

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