From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
aarcange@redhat.com, gal@redhat.com,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] balloon vs postcopy migrate
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:49:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150210184952.GG2376@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150203170925.GK2332@work-vm>
* Dr. David Alan Gilbert (dgilbert@redhat.com) wrote:
> Hi,
> Andrea pointed out there is a risk that a guest inflating its
> balloon during a postcopy migrate could cause us problems, and
> I wanted to see what the best way of avoiding the problem was.
>
> Guests inflating there balloon cause an madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) on
> the host, marking pages as not present, that will potentially trigger
> a userfault, that we are using in postcopy to detect pages that need
> to be fetched from the source.
>
> In theory, at the moment guests *should* only ask for a balloon
> inflation if they've been asked to do so by the host; however there
> are no guards for that, and it's been suggested giving the
> guest more freedom might be a good idea anyway.
>
> My alternatives seem to be:
> 1) Stop servicing the message queue from the guest so
> that we just don't notice the inflate messages until
> afterwards. (Easy for Qemu, not sure how the guests
> will like an unserviced queue).
>
> 2) I could keep servicing the queue and ignore the messages
> (Easy for everyone, not very nice in actual used memory -
> does it cause any long term problems other than that?)
>
> 3) I could keep servicing the queue but put the messages
> in a list somewhere that replay after migrate has finished.
> (That list sounds bounded only in a very large way?)
As a follow up question; why is 'balloon_page' part of virtio-balloon.c
rather than balloon.c ?
I'm thinking of implementing (3) by putting a queue in front
of balloon_page, but it seems to make more sense to put that
type of thing in shared code (migration shouldn't need to know
it's virtio that's the transport?)
Dave
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-10 18:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-03 17:09 [Qemu-devel] balloon vs postcopy migrate Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-03 17:36 ` Pankaj Gupta
2015-02-03 17:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-10 18:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
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