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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: aarcange@redhat.com, yamahata@private.email.ne.jp,
	quintela@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, amit.shah@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 20/45] Modify savevm handlers for postcopy
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:35:35 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326013535.GG28039@voom.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150325150024.GH2313@work-vm>

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 03:00:29PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 08:04:14PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:37:59PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:19:54AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > > > * David Gibson (david@gibson.dropbear.id.au) wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 04:51:43PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
> > > > > > > > > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Modify save_live_pending to return separate postcopiable and
> > > > > > > > > non-postcopiable counts.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Add 'can_postcopy' to allow a device to state if it can postcopy
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What's the purpose of the can_postcopy callback?  There are no callers
> > > > > > > > in this patch - is it still necessary with the change to
> > > > > > > > save_live_pending?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The patch 'qemu_savevm_state_complete: Postcopy changes' uses
> > > > > > > it in qemu_savevm_state_postcopy_complete and qemu_savevm_state_complete
> > > > > > > to decide which devices must be completed at that point.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Couldn't they check for non-zero postcopiable state from
> > > > > > save_live_pending instead?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That would be a bit weird.
> > > > > 
> > > > > At the moment for each device we call the:
> > > > >        save_live_setup method (from qemu_savevm_state_begin)
> > > > > 
> > > > >    0...multiple times we call:
> > > > >        save_live_pending
> > > > >        save_live_iterate
> > > > > 
> > > > >    and then we always call
> > > > >        save_live_complete
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To my mind we have to call save_live_complete for any device
> > > > > that we've called save_live_setup on (maybe it allocated something
> > > > > in _setup that it clears up in _complete).
> > > > > 
> > > > > save_live_pending could perfectly well return 0 remaining at the end of
> > > > > the migrate for our device, and thus if we used that then we wouldn't
> > > > > call save_live_complete.
> > > > 
> > > > Um.. I don't follow.  I was suggesting that at the precopy->postcopy
> > > > transition point you call save_live_complete for everything that
> > > > reports 0 post-copiable state.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Then again, a different approach would be to split the
> > > > save_live_complete hook into (possibly NULL) "complete precopy" and
> > > > "complete postcopy" hooks.  The core would ensure that every chunk of
> > > > state has both completion hooks called (unless NULL).  That might also
> > > > address my concerns about the no longer entirely accurate
> > > > save_live_complete function name.
> > > 
> > > OK, that one I prefer.  Are you OK with:
> > >     qemu_savevm_state_complete_precopy
> > >        calls -> save_live_complete_precopy
> > > 
> > >     qemu_savevm_state_complete_postcopy
> > >        calls -> save_live_complete_postcopy
> > > 
> > > ?
> > 
> > Sounds ok to me.  Fwiw, I was thinking that both the complete_precopy
> > and complete_postcopy hooks should always be called.  For a
> > non-postcopy migration, the postcopy hooks would just be called
> > immediately after the precopy hooks.
> 
> OK, I've made the change as described in my last mail; but I haven't called
> the complete_postcopy hook in the precopy case.  If it was as simple as making
> all devices use one or the other then it would work, however there are
> existing (precopy) assumptions about ordering of device state on the wire that
> I want to be careful not to alter; for example RAM must come first is the one
> I know.

It's not obvious to me why that matters to the hook scheme.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-26  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-25 16:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/45] Postcopy implementation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/45] Start documenting how postcopy works Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-05  3:21   ` David Gibson
2015-03-05  9:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-10  1:04       ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 13:07         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/45] Split header writing out of qemu_save_state_begin Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  1:05   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/45] qemu_ram_foreach_block: pass up error value, and down the ramblock name Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10 15:30   ` Eric Blake
2015-03-10 16:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/45] Add qemu_get_counted_string to read a string prefixed by a count byte Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  1:12   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/45] Create MigrationIncomingState Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  2:37   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/45] Provide runtime Target page information Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  2:38   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/45] Return path: Open a return path on QEMUFile for sockets Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  2:49   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 13:14     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/45] Return path: socket_writev_buffer: Block even on non-blocking fd's Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  2:56   ` David Gibson
2015-03-10 13:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-11  1:51       ` David Gibson
2015-03-28 15:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-29  4:07     ` David Gibson
2015-03-29  9:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30 16:50         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30 18:22           ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/45] Migration commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  4:58   ` David Gibson
2015-03-10 11:04     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-10 11:06       ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/45] Return path: Control commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  5:40   ` David Gibson
2015-03-28 15:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30 17:34     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/45] Return path: Send responses from destination to source Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  5:47   ` David Gibson
2015-03-10 14:34     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-11  1:54       ` David Gibson
2015-03-25 18:47         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-28 15:34     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/45] Return path: Source handling of return path Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  6:08   ` David Gibson
2015-03-20 18:17     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-23  2:37       ` David Gibson
2015-04-01 15:14         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-07  3:07           ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/45] ram_debug_dump_bitmap: Dump a migration bitmap as text Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  6:11   ` David Gibson
2015-03-20 18:48     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/45] Move loadvm_handlers into MigrationIncomingState Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-10  6:19   ` David Gibson
2015-03-10 10:12     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-10 11:03       ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/45] Rework loadvm path for subloops Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-12  6:11   ` David Gibson
2015-04-14 12:04     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/45] Add migration-capability boolean for postcopy-ram Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-12  6:14   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 12:58     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 17/45] Add wrappers and handlers for sending/receiving the postcopy-ram migration messages Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-12  9:30   ` David Gibson
2015-03-26 16:33     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-27  4:13       ` David Gibson
2015-03-27 10:48         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-28 16:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30  4:03           ` David Gibson
2015-03-28 15:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-28 15:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30 17:46     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30 19:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-31 11:05         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-31 11:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 18/45] MIG_CMD_PACKAGED: Send a packaged chunk of migration stream Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  0:55   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 11:51     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-16  6:16       ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 19/45] migrate_init: Call from savevm Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 20/45] Modify savevm handlers for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  1:00   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 10:19     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-16  6:18       ` David Gibson
2015-03-20 12:37         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-23  2:25           ` David Gibson
2015-03-24 20:04             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-24 22:32               ` David Gibson
2015-03-25 15:00                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-25 16:40                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-26  1:35                     ` David Gibson
2015-03-26 11:44                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-27  3:56                         ` David Gibson
2015-03-26  1:35                   ` David Gibson [this message]
2015-03-30  8:10                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-31  0:10                   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 21/45] Add Linux userfaultfd header Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 22/45] postcopy: OS support test Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  1:23   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 10:41     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-16  6:22       ` David Gibson
2015-03-30  8:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30 14:07         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30 14:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-16 10:49             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 23/45] migrate_start_postcopy: Command to trigger transition to postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  1:26   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 11:19     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-16  6:23       ` David Gibson
2015-03-18 17:59         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-19  4:18           ` David Gibson
2015-03-19  9:33             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-23  2:20               ` David Gibson
2015-03-30  8:19                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-30 17:04                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30 19:22                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-31 11:21                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30  8:17               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-03-31  2:23                 ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 24/45] MIG_STATE_POSTCOPY_ACTIVE: Add new migration state Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  4:45   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 25/45] qemu_savevm_state_complete: Postcopy changes Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  4:58   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 12:25     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 26/45] Postcopy page-map-incoming (PMI) structure Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-13  5:19   ` David Gibson
2015-03-13 13:47     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-16  6:30       ` David Gibson
2015-03-18 17:58         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-23  2:48           ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 27/45] Postcopy: Maintain sentmap and calculate discard Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  3:30   ` David Gibson
2015-03-23 14:36     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 28/45] postcopy: Incoming initialisation Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  3:41   ` David Gibson
2015-03-23 13:46     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 29/45] postcopy: ram_enable_notify to switch on userfault Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  3:45   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 30/45] Postcopy: Postcopy startup in migration thread Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  4:20   ` David Gibson
2015-03-26 11:05     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-30  8:31       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-13 11:35         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-13 13:26           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-13 14:58             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 31/45] Postcopy end in migration_thread Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 32/45] Page request: Add MIG_RP_CMD_REQ_PAGES reverse command Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  5:00   ` David Gibson
2015-03-25 18:16     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-26  1:28       ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 33/45] Page request: Process incoming page request Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  1:53   ` David Gibson
2015-03-25 17:37     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-26  1:31       ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 34/45] Page request: Consume pages off the post-copy queue Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  2:15   ` David Gibson
2015-06-16 10:48     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 35/45] postcopy_ram.c: place_page and helpers Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  2:33   ` David Gibson
2015-03-25 17:46     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 36/45] Postcopy: Use helpers to map pages during migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  4:51   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 37/45] qemu_ram_block_from_host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  4:55   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 38/45] Don't sync dirty bitmaps in postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  4:58   ` David Gibson
2015-03-24  9:05     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 39/45] Host page!=target page: Cleanup bitmaps Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  5:23   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 40/45] Postcopy; Handle userfault requests Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-24  5:38   ` David Gibson
2015-03-26 11:59     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 41/45] Start up a postcopy/listener thread ready for incoming page data Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 42/45] postcopy: Wire up loadvm_postcopy_handle_{run, end} commands Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 43/45] End of migration for postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 44/45] Disable mlock around incoming postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  4:33   ` David Gibson
2015-02-25 16:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 45/45] Inhibit ballooning during postcopy Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2015-03-23  4:32   ` David Gibson
2015-03-23 12:21     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-03-24  1:25       ` David Gibson

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