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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET"
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:13:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150420171330.45514f68.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1429257573-7359-1-git-send-email-famz@redhat.com>

On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:59:15 +0800
Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com> wrote:

> Currently, virtio code chooses to kill QEMU if the guest passes any invalid
> data with vring. That has drawbacks such as losing unsaved data (e.g. when
> guest user is writing a very long email), or possible denial of service in
> a nested vm use case where virtio device is passed through.
> 
> virtio-1 has introduced a new status bit "NEEDS RESET" which could be used to
> improve this by communicating the error state between virtio devices and
> drivers. The device notifies guest upon setting the bit, then the guest driver
> should detect this bit and report to userspace, or recover the device by
> resetting it.
> 
> This series makes necessary changes in virtio core code, based on which
> virtio-blk is converted. Other devices now keep the existing behavior by
> passing in "error_abort". They will be converted in following series. The Linux
> driver part will also be worked on.
> 
> One concern with this behavior change is that it's now harder to notice the
> actual driver bug that caused the error, as the guest continues to run.  To
> address that, we could probably add a new error action option to virtio
> devices,  similar to the "read/write werror" in block layer, so the vm could be
> paused and the management will get an event in QMP like pvpanic.  This work can
> be done on top.

In principle, this looks nice; I'm not sure however how this affects
non-virtio-1 devices.

If a device is operating in virtio-1 mode, everything is clearly
specified: The guest is notified and if it is aware of the NEEDS_RESET
bit, it can react accordingly.

But what about legacy devices? Even if they are notified, they don't
know to check for NEEDS_RESET - and I'm not sure if the undefined
behaviour after NEEDS_RESET might lead to bigger trouble than killing
off the guest.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-20 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-17  7:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET" Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_map_sg Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_num_heads Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_get_head Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  6:27   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_next_desc Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  6:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21  7:30     ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  9:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_get_avail_bytes Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_pop Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  6:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21  7:24     ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  9:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/18] virtio: Return error from virtqueue_avail_bytes Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/18] virtio: Return error from virtio_add_queue Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/18] virtio: Return error from virtio_del_queue Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/18] virtio: Add macro for VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/18] virtio: Add "needs_reset" flag to virtio device Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] virtio: Return -EINVAL if the vdev needs reset in virtqueue_pop Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/18] virtio-blk: Graceful error handling of virtqueue_pop Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/18] qtest: Add "QTEST_FILTER" to filter test cases Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/18] qtest: virtio-blk: Extract "setup" for future reuse Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/18] libqos: Add qvirtio_needs_reset Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/18] qtest: Add test case for "needs reset" of virtio-blk Fam Zheng
2015-04-17  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/18] qtest: virtio-blk: Suppress virtio error messages in "make check" Fam Zheng
2015-04-20 15:13 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2015-04-21  7:44   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] virtio-blk: Support "VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_NEEDS_RESET" Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  8:04     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-21  8:38       ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  9:08         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-21  9:16           ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  9:55             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-21  9:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-20 17:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-20 19:10   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-20 20:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21  2:39       ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  6:52       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-21  6:58         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21  2:37   ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  5:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-21  5:50       ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-21  6:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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