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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Chen Fan <chen.fan.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/7] Live Migration with Pass-through Devices proposal
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:23:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150422092304.GE32086@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1429256889.git.chen.fan.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 04:53:02PM +0800, Chen Fan wrote:
> backgrond:
> Live migration is one of the most important features of virtualization technology.
> With regard to recent virtualization techniques, performance of network I/O is critical.
> Current network I/O virtualization (e.g. Para-virtualized I/O, VMDq) has a significant
> performance gap with native network I/O. Pass-through network devices have near
> native performance, however, they have thus far prevented live migration. No existing
> methods solve the problem of live migration with pass-through devices perfectly.
> 
> There was an idea to solve the problem in website:
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2008/ols2008v2-pages-261-267.pdf
> Please refer to above document for detailed information.
> 
> So I think this problem maybe could be solved by using the combination of existing
> technology. and the following steps are we considering to implement:
> 
> -  before boot VM, we anticipate to specify two NICs for creating bonding device
>    (one plugged and one virtual NIC) in XML. here we can specify the NIC's mac addresses
>    in XML, which could facilitate qemu-guest-agent to find the network interfaces in guest.
> 
> -  when qemu-guest-agent startup in guest it would send a notification to libvirt,
>    then libvirt will call the previous registered initialize callbacks. so through
>    the callback functions, we can create the bonding device according to the XML
>    configuration. and here we use netcf tool which can facilitate to create bonding device
>    easily.

I'm not really clear on why libvirt/guest agent needs to be involved in this.
I think configuration of networking is really something that must be left to
the guest OS admin to control. I don't think the guest agent should be trying
to reconfigure guest networking itself, as that is inevitably going to conflict
with configuration attempted by things in the guest like NetworkManager or
systemd-networkd.

IOW, if you want to do this setup where the guest is given multiple NICs connected
to the same host LAN, then I think we should just let the gues admin configure
bonding in whatever manner they decide is best for their OS install.

> -  during migration, unplug the passthroughed NIC. then do native migration.
> 
> -  on destination side, check whether need to hotplug new NIC according to specified XML.
>    usually, we use migrate "--xml" command option to specify the destination host NIC mac
>    address to hotplug a new NIC, because source side passthrough NIC mac address is different,
>    then hotplug the deivce according to the destination XML configuration.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-22  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-17  8:53 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/7] Live Migration with Pass-through Devices proposal Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/7] qemu-agent: add agent init callback when detecting guest setup Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/7] qemu: add guest init event callback to do the initialize work for guest Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/7] hostdev: add a 'bond' type element in <hostdev> element Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/7] qemu-agent: add qemuAgentCreateBond interface Chen Fan
2015-05-19  9:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-29  7:37   ` Michal Privoznik
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/7] hostdev: add parse ip and route for bond configure Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/7] migrate: hot remove hostdev at perform phase for bond device Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 7/7] migrate: add hostdev migrate status to support hostdev migration Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/3] add support migration with passthrough device Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/3] qemu-agent: add guest-network-set-interface command Chen Fan
2015-05-21 13:52     ` Olga Krishtal
2015-05-21 14:43       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2015-04-17  8:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/3] qemu-agent: add guest-network-delete-interface command Chen Fan
2015-04-17  8:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/3] qemu-agent: add notify for qemu-ga boot Chen Fan
2015-04-21 23:38     ` Eric Blake
2015-04-19 22:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [RFC 0/7] Live Migration with Pass-through Devices proposal Laine Stump
2015-04-22  4:22   ` Chen Fan
2015-04-23 14:14     ` Laine Stump
2015-04-23  8:34   ` Chen Fan
2015-04-23 15:01     ` Laine Stump
2015-05-19  9:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-22  9:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2015-04-22 13:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-04-22 17:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-22 17:06     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-04-22 17:12       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-22 17:15         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-04-22 17:20           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 16:35             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Laine Stump
2015-05-19  9:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19  9:07   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19 14:15     ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Laine Stump
2015-05-19 14:21       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 15:03         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-19 15:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19 15:35           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 15:39             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19 15:45               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 16:08                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19 16:13                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-19 16:27                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-19 15:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-19 15:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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